lol, gee.... whadya know?

[thesightless]

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kobe, if you have any of the NY dailies floating around form yesterday or today, check em out. there is an article about how the Vet hospitals have excelled in care and treament. god i hope they are good, god forbid any thing happens to my lil brother......

[Kobe]

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Apparently they have some of the best care in the country, primarily because all of the medical records are digitized so a vet can go to any VA hospital in the country and the have his entire medical history available with a few keystrokes.

That doesn't mean the whole sha-bang gets top marks. Gulf War Syndrome as a prime example, not the mention Agent Orange, and so on. I would add the psychological issue alluded to in my last post.

I agree these guys deserve the best, we owe them that.

[thesightless]

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seriously, im lucky enough to grab a good education and great paying job, i would give every penny and minute i have if my brother was ever injured.

[miketpoto]

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They are indeed left behind, chewed up and spit out by the system, left with a killer instince, but nobody to kill. I'm amazed and proud of my peer's dedication to their country and their duity, and in disbelief at the calous disregard our government has shown for them.

What ever happened to Vets deserving the best? Oh yeah, that was just bullshit lip service, they're good at that.

I am appreciative of the fact that some people for the right reasons are part of my country's military that one day might need to protect me... On the other hand, fleet week having just ended here and freshly reminded me how either just plain dumb (as in no capacity to question things or problem solve on their own) or ignorant (kinda smart but from the bible belt or the heart of the conservative midwest.... in essence, the people that are PROUD TO BE AMERICANS yet have done nor accomplished anything that they could be proud of for themselves let alone do they have a grasp on the realities of the things they would list as reasons they are proud to be an american? Can they even list reasons that go beyond freedom, or that we are the "greatest" country in the world (and they've never left)

[miketpoto]

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seriously, im lucky enough to grab a good education and great paying job, i would give every penny and minute i have if my brother was ever injured.

Yeah, but god (that I don't believe in) forbid something happen, and thinking of the majority of poor families who have sons in Iraq, what options are there going to be later in life if one had no arms due to a situation like this? This guy is gonna have very few options later in life if there isn't a friend or family member who can help them get to and from the VA or whatever assisted living place the VA would actually fully pay for...

[thesightless]

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mike, if ya wanna learn about the VA's i think its from todays NY Times. or dailynews. there was a whole write up on it. interesting what they do now. they have these remote monitors that hook up to ppl's homes and assissted linving centers where essentially the docs and nurses at the VA can act as if they were right there. from automated IV and prescriptions to instant voice chat. was a cool article.

[Kobe]

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I am appreciative of the fact that some people for the right reasons are part of my country's military that one day might need to protect me... On the other hand, fleet week having just ended here and freshly reminded me how either just plain dumb (as in no capacity to question things or problem solve on their own) or ignorant (kinda smart but from the bible belt or the heart of the conservative midwest.... in essence, the people that are PROUD TO BE AMERICANS yet have done nor accomplished anything that they could be proud of for themselves let alone do they have a grasp on the realities of the things they would list as reasons they are proud to be an american? Can they even list reasons that go beyond freedom, or that we are the "greatest" country in the world (and they've never left)

But you still got to check them out in their sailor's uniforms, didn't you?

I dunnno.... Personally, I agree with you, but still hold out that you shouldn't apply your own values to other people. Certainly many of who you'd describe would do the same to you, which would not be appreciated, right?

The military is a good move for some people, beyond what it represents philosophically. For financial reasons, or social reasons such as getting off the street, it does present a lot of people with the oppertunity to "make something of themselves," and a shot at a better future (sometime much worse unfortunately)

Once you're in it, you might as well make the best of it, be proud of what you're doing, even if it is in a preverse war based on lies. The job of a soldier is not to question, but to do.