Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

[Kamal]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

Evidently, and I can't believe I even found this out on a Rogan podcast (Conspiracy or not), the U.S. has been needling in Ukrainian politics since 2014. The toppling of the previous president and appointing of Pro-Western Zelenskiy was no accident. If we were pissed about the Cuban missile crisis, Russia has every right to be pissed if Ukraine joins NATO.

Granted Russia has been at war with Ukraine far before U.S. was even constitutionalized, but this recent aggression is primarily U.S. driven. Perhaps Putin is using some dated geographic diagram of the USSR to justify invading Ukraine to avoid the Americans getting in, but this shit is serious.

They've already performed ICBM nuclear test (non weaponized) off of subs in the Black Sea this week and their retreat from Kherson this week is very telling - given the timing of these two events.

It's hairy if you ask me.

[AchtungBaby!]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

Russian missiles hit Poland? Not good.

http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?187786-Putin-s-War

"Do people think that Putin will eventually surrender and go to jail like a normal criminal? Just like that?"

[DIDI]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

Evidently, and I can't believe I even found this out on a Rogan podcast (Conspiracy or not), the U.S. has been needling in Ukrainian politics since 2014. The toppling of the previous president and appointing of Pro-Western Zelenskiy was no accident. If we were pissed about the Cuban missile crisis, Russia has every right to be pissed if Ukraine joins NATO.

Granted Russia has been at war with Ukraine far before U.S. was even constitutionalized, but this recent aggression is primarily U.S. driven. Perhaps Putin is using some dated geographic diagram of the USSR to justify invading Ukraine to avoid the Americans getting in, but this shit is serious.

They've already performed ICBM nuclear test (non weaponized) off of subs in the Black Sea this week and their retreat from Kherson this week is very telling - given the timing of these two events.

It's hairy if you ask me.

Went to an Noam Chomsky lecture a few years a go , he had so much to say about American interference .

[floridaorange]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

Went to an Noam Chomsky lecture a few years a go , he had so much to say about American interference .

Didi have you visited the United States before?

[DIDI]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

Didi have you visited the United States before?

???

[Kamal]

Re: Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

Went to an Noam Chomsky lecture a few years a go , he had so much to say about American interference .

The true question truly is IF Western interference to pave the way for democracy is something we can agree on. Clearly not in the way that some may judge the manner in which it was instilled.

Now NATO - whether you like them or not - stands united as a collection of democratic nations that have been baited by America's ability to offer weapons security to smaller countries that don't have the budget for it. Some might say the U.S.A. runs the show at NATO, but with the size of the budget (and being a businessman) we bring to the table, wouldn't you think it's fair that the U.S. has a greater say in the manner?

I have mixed feelings about NATO, but think about where Ukraine is today? Imagine a smaller nation, now backed by NATO, is 'boots on the ground' rescued by Western Allies.

It's such a see-saw of 'man is this right or wrong'.