Are we on the brink of WWIII ?

[thesightless]

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and much respect to ehud ohlmert (spelling>?) for coming out and keeping it simple. he said the fighting will stop when the soldiers are returned. until then, its up to the people of palestine and lebanon to either deal with their own people bringing this upon them, or to step up and help stop this. either way, i just hope irans shithead keeps out of it. we all know he is just waiting in the shadows................... which, btw will be his biggest mistake. once he jumps in, 2 of the feircest military forces will descend upon his nation. and it wont be civil.

god, i hope everyone realizes that this shit needs to stop, and like today. there isnt any debate about it. give the soldiers back and isreal will withdraw. we can work from there, until then, no progress will be made unless you consider isreali mlitary strikes progress. i dont.

[Kobe]

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oops, double post, sorry

[Kobe]

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he was really into that buttered roll too.

[threehills]

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I mentoined this in another post... but peace comes from war on a large scale. I say we just step aside and let this countries have at it with each other. Yes, many innocent will die. But from the carnage will come peace. There hasn't been war in Europe since WWII.

Never in the history of man has there been world peace. War is a part of our nature. Its enevitible, and its necessary. Like in the godfather, every ten years or so the families would go to the matresses, but peace and prosperity would rein in between.

[Kamal]

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Never in the history of man has there been world peace. War is a part of our nature. Its enevitible, and its necessary. Like in the godfather, every ten years or so the families would go to the matresses, but peace and prosperity would rein in between.

eerie how science fits into this, whaddya think jenks ??

The butterfly effect is a phrase that encapsulates the more technical notion of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in chaos theory. Small variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system. This is sometimes presented as esoteric behavior, but can be exhibited by very simple systems: for example, a ball placed at the crest of a hill might roll into any of several valleys depending on slight differences in initial position.

[Jenks]

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right on kamal.

It will be interesting to see the data collected from these recent middle eastern events in the global consciousness project.

[KinKyJ]

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when you say 'WE' i hope you mean, 'everyone' not just the US and it's allies. The World Trade center was a civilian target, or did you forget about that already? Not saying it's right, just saying, don't paint your picture with such a narrow brush.

Dude, I was painbombing the place. With 'WE' I indeed meant 'everyone' not only the US. I know my examples were a bit centered around the US, but the entire international community shares a chunk of responsability.

@ sean: you're spot on about getting to a status quo and go on from there. And true, if Iran starts to get involved military, that's where the shit will hit the fan. So yeah, Israel will fight back and the US will join in.

But let's be realistic for a second: if Iran was so easy to take out, the US would've done so years ago instead of pumping weapons into Iraq and providing military training... Moreover, Bush has depleted a lot of potential in Iraq already.

My guess (and fear) is that if Iran joins the party or if there would be an attack on Israel, the US will not be able to hit back effectively (with conventional weapons). In that case the war will be knocking at the door of everyone of us since NATO will be mobilised.

@ threehills: that's all nice in theory, but I'd like to see you repeat that after you've returned from a warzone...

[thesightless]

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the US, UK, france, germany, and whoever else deems it vital to the planet that we stop the fighting. frankly, i dont even care about the people anymore. lets just cut it off before someone gets really stupid and gives a warhead to either a terror organization or a country and the earth itself gets hurt. sounds kinda hippy, i know, but shit, its only one planet, we have drained it enough, lets leave everything we can to our kids.

[thesightless]

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...............CNN just had thier beruit bureau cheif on and he made a fabulous point. right now, neither side has anything to gain by stopping. seriously they dont. hezzie loses all its ground in the arab community, and loses influence if they stop. isreal invites more, loses more life, and tempts its neighbors to become more and more aggressive in regards to attacks from terror groups if they do. but if either side actually wins, then the victor gains so much ground in the region.

again, lets just hope that it stays confined to the 3 major areas rather than hezzbollah handing the pair to iran and inviting a monster war.

[evangelion]

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Any more word on the prisoners being given to Iran??

If Iran is in Syria right now, then the shit is about to hit. If uniformed Iranian soldiers go into Lebenon to join the fight against Isreal it really is shaping up to be a full-scale war and not just a battle.

[Jenks]

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Hezbollah is Iranian funded and supported, that's enough to say that Iran is already involved, just as Isreal is US funded and supported, so in a way, the US and Iran are at war. Deep. lol.

[davetlv]

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A message to Hizbollah from the children of Israel. . . .

[Jenks]

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^Hatred bred at an early age in this conflict.

I saw on the news earlier today an interview with some random people in Lebanon. When the reporter asked them who they sided with, unanimously the vote was for Hezbollah, which is probably why the Lebanese govt hasn't been able to disarm them in the past- the public wants them there, just as the Palestinian people want Hamas in control. Very strange to me that the majority of the people over there want miliant islamic terrorists in the highest position of power. That's not a very good recipe for peace imo.

[evangelion]

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Hezbollah is Iranian funded and supported, that's enough to say that Iran is already involved

True, but using a proxy terrorist group is way different that having your uniformed regular army do the fighting.

just as Isreal is US funded and supported, so in a way, the US and Iran are at war. Deep. lol.

Yeah, but Isreal is a real country with a real army. Hezbollah is nothing more than warm bodies to do the dying for Iran....so they don't have to.

[davetlv]

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Hezbollah is nothing more than warm bodies to do the dying for Iran....so they don't have to.

An excellent description of the reality of the situation.