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  • superdave
    Platinum Poster
    • Jun 2004
    • 1366

    #16
    Re:: Bush and Evangelical Christians

    My problem with Bush's tactics are that he will probably divide the nation even more than ever. Or is it already divided and he's just picking sides?
    Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte

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    • factorg
      Addiction started
      • Jun 2004
      • 265

      #17
      Originally posted by asdf_admin
      this is the strange thing ... I do not think you guys are fools? So why bash and hinder the peaceful? I have done nothing to anyone, and I will continue not to push my ways or views. I will let life play it's role and I will go with what I feel is strength and power in my life. Even more, to understand and help me get to the next day.

      Don't you see ... it is a lifestyle, something that helps me understand, and grow, something I love, and enjoy. And yet that is bad? or not good? You can not say that, nor is there anyway you could prove to me that it is.

      I wait for a intelligent argument. Not just simple judgement.


      PS (K) Thank You.
      The history of the church is what bothers me and is why I said that christians are fools. How many christians/catholics have any idea about the history of their church? Do you? I would like to think that there are many who do but the unfortunate truth is there isn't and I guarantee if most did there would no longer be the support for it that it currently receives, especially those members of the Roman Catholic church.

      But don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the fundementals that are taught(thou shall not kill etc) and I understand that some people get fulfillment from it and it helps them lead better life's, like yourself :wink:

      So my apologies if i offended you
      "..truth has a habit of marching on.."

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      • factorg
        Addiction started
        • Jun 2004
        • 265

        #18
        Originally posted by toasty
        my thought on it is this: if religion enhances your life, so be it, do it. If it doesn't, that's OK, too. The problem arises when religion is foisted upon someone. That, I guess is my concern with Bush being in the hip pocket of rabid fundamentalists -- there is a possibility that religion will find its way into policy.
        And it doesn't already?

        "..truth has a habit of marching on.."

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        • asdf_admin
          i use to be important
          • Jun 2004
          • 12798

          #19
          Re:: Bush and Evangelical Christians

          The history of the church is what bothers me and is why I said that christians are fools. How many christians/catholics have any idea about the history of their church? Do you? I would like to think that there are many who do but the unfortunate truth is there isn't and I guarantee if most did there would no longer be the support for it that it currently receives, especially those members of the Roman Catholic church.

          But don't get me wrong, I have no problem with the fundementals that are taught(thou shall not kill etc) and I understand that some people get fulfillment from it and it helps them lead better life's, like yourself Wink

          So my apologies if i offended you
          No problem. You are very correct, just because you believe in God, does not make you a good person. History of the church and the people behind, have been very very bad and prove that exact point. That is the black & white in life. I believe in my Lord, and all his blessing. But, yet I also understand there are people who wish not to. That is the beauty of choice. To me, it makes you no less no better, it makes who you are, a human. As equal, as fair, and as fun as me.

          I am different. You will not find many like me out there. I will not burn you, I will not damn you, I will only LOVE you. So I guess I am a little fuct up.
          dead, yet alive.

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          • MJ
            Here since 2002
            • Jun 2004
            • 6560

            #20
            I believe the truth will one day be know about the true Pataky Pal.
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            • mylexicon
              Addiction started
              • Jun 2004
              • 339

              #21
              Originally posted by Yao
              Religion/belief is irrational, and irrationality on a large scale and organized basis scares me. That is like organized lunacy IMO.
              :ROFLMAO: Religion is irrational and irrationality scares you!!!!
              LOL quote of the year. LoL, you really put yourself on a pedestal with that one.

              The only thing more rediculous than blind evangelism is people who act like they
              cleansed themselves of any human transgressions because they have been fortunate
              enough to receive a miseducation.

              Besides evangelicals drive me crazy but this is America. And if you are going
              to make me tolerate a bunch of lazy asses living off of my hard earned money
              then i am going to make you endure more evangelism. Enjoy!
              Be a vegan......eat freedom fries..

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              • davetlv
                Platinum Poster
                • Jun 2004
                • 1205

                #22
                Re:: Bush and Evangelical Christians

                Hey MyLexicons back . . . . it's been quiet without matey!

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                • mylexicon
                  Addiction started
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 339

                  #23
                  sup dave feels good to be back
                  Be a vegan......eat freedom fries..

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                  • dohturdima
                    Getting Somewhere
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 193

                    #24
                    Re:: Bush and Evangelical Christians

                    Originally posted by davetlv
                    ...why possibily in a recent survey of US Jews 75% polled said they would be voting for Kerry.
                    Not the reason - 'cause they traditionally voted Democratic. But that's changing - some of 'em started to realize that you either support pro-Israel Republicans or anti-sam Democrats (and can't do both selectively). Is current NYC mayor a democrat? Both front-running mayoral candidates were Jewish - although I s'pose Bloomberg could've been riding the Giuliani wave
                    Habit is a form of exercise

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                    • Yao
                      DUDERZ get a life!!!
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 8167

                      #25
                      Originally posted by mylexicon
                      Originally posted by Yao
                      Religion/belief is irrational, and irrationality on a large scale and organized basis scares me. That is like organized lunacy IMO.
                      :ROFLMAO: Religion is irrational and irrationality scares you!!!!
                      LOL quote of the year. LoL, you really put yourself on a pedestal with that one.

                      The only thing more rediculous than blind evangelism is people who act like they
                      cleansed themselves of any human transgressions because they have been fortunate
                      enough to receive a miseducation.

                      Besides evangelicals drive me crazy but this is America. And if you are going
                      to make me tolerate a bunch of lazy asses living off of my hard earned money
                      then i am going to make you endure more evangelism. Enjoy!
                      Heheh, you didn't quite get my point there, did you now? Irrationality is inherent to the human nature, so don't worry about me being miseducated. Which makes me think I'm talking to a firm believer here?

                      Nice little discussion I had with a classmate of mine, who is protestant:

                      She: "How can you live with the idea that it all ends when you die, that there is nothing after life? That sounds really scary to me, I could never do that."

                      Me: "How can YOU live your life in service of a God or whatever, thinking that there is something beyond without knowing it? If there's nothing, you spent your whole life on that for nothing! I'd rather just take what I can get now, and make something of my life here."

                      Personally, I think it is one big joke. Either your God doesn't exist, or he ran away scared from what he created. Or he must've been really, really high on stuff when he did his creating thing
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