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well i was watching TV last night, flipping throught hte channels and saw this latin lady screaming at lou dobbs..... so i watched...
he brought up a great point, last night, the eve of the border fence being signed into law, he had a debate on the topic. he was spot on with some thoughts, particularly on how pro mexican people dont realize they hurt our economy in ways. and help too. he didnt leave that out ill give him credit. but the pro mexican people were essentially telling him that its simple too bad we cant control the border and they encourage mexicans to come here illegally and send money back.. i didnt like that.
but the big point here, and i would appreciate some input from our mexican MS'ers, is..... where is the mexican governments responsibility here?: they openly encourage and help thier citizens to come here, thier policy on illegal immigration is disgusting too. they jail and deport thier illegals under all circumstances outside of cuban defection. and they jail them without trial, and still deport them if they have childern, something we wont do. where is the accoutnability to the mexican government in regard to thier own economic developement and security? where is there accountability to the USA?
not to make a joke, but i am on the fence regarding this issue. human rights are above all in 99% of cases, but we cannot have 7 million people here, taking jobs that might otherwise be used for naturalized citizens while they ignore taxes and reap our public and social works. i am for a clemency period whereas they have the option to become true citizens and pay taxes, as well as show a basic comprehension of the english language. (nothing racist, more geared towards integration).
this is a ''big'' thing for me, as i live on long island which has seen some serious governmental debate on the subject, some rather vile actions on the behalf of racist people, and local reports that roughly 800,000 people on my island are escaping taxation, taking a job, and still enjoying our social services.
lastly, and spearetly, would a take like this encourage assimilation in reagrds to becoming a true US citizen.
we deny illegal immigrants the public services and legal services of our country until the apply for citizenship? i.e. they come to a hospital and are forced to either pay cash or go away? (i know it is cruel in ways), or prevent them, or another group representing them, from bringing suit in court as they have no true rights to be a plaintiff in the US legal system? also, a big impact step that i am against, but might work, would be to deny them the rights to use our public schooling
he brought up a great point, last night, the eve of the border fence being signed into law, he had a debate on the topic. he was spot on with some thoughts, particularly on how pro mexican people dont realize they hurt our economy in ways. and help too. he didnt leave that out ill give him credit. but the pro mexican people were essentially telling him that its simple too bad we cant control the border and they encourage mexicans to come here illegally and send money back.. i didnt like that.
but the big point here, and i would appreciate some input from our mexican MS'ers, is..... where is the mexican governments responsibility here?: they openly encourage and help thier citizens to come here, thier policy on illegal immigration is disgusting too. they jail and deport thier illegals under all circumstances outside of cuban defection. and they jail them without trial, and still deport them if they have childern, something we wont do. where is the accoutnability to the mexican government in regard to thier own economic developement and security? where is there accountability to the USA?
not to make a joke, but i am on the fence regarding this issue. human rights are above all in 99% of cases, but we cannot have 7 million people here, taking jobs that might otherwise be used for naturalized citizens while they ignore taxes and reap our public and social works. i am for a clemency period whereas they have the option to become true citizens and pay taxes, as well as show a basic comprehension of the english language. (nothing racist, more geared towards integration).
this is a ''big'' thing for me, as i live on long island which has seen some serious governmental debate on the subject, some rather vile actions on the behalf of racist people, and local reports that roughly 800,000 people on my island are escaping taxation, taking a job, and still enjoying our social services.
lastly, and spearetly, would a take like this encourage assimilation in reagrds to becoming a true US citizen.
we deny illegal immigrants the public services and legal services of our country until the apply for citizenship? i.e. they come to a hospital and are forced to either pay cash or go away? (i know it is cruel in ways), or prevent them, or another group representing them, from bringing suit in court as they have no true rights to be a plaintiff in the US legal system? also, a big impact step that i am against, but might work, would be to deny them the rights to use our public schooling
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