James Holden - The Idiots Are Winning

**chuckc** · October 31, 2006, 10:57:22 AM

Re: James Holden - The Idiots Are Winning

man he must be overly medicated

**ShawnD64** · October 31, 2006, 11:30:06 AM

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where the hell can i listen to clips of this? i tried 3beat and itunes?
boreder community does not have clips either?

**J-Shock** · October 31, 2006, 11:56:37 AM

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I dont have much to add besides what Kinetic said earlier is spot on my opinion.

This album is something that takes time to enjoy, especially sitting through all of it at once. But at the same time, i like it a lot. Im not gonna be listening to this allt he time, but so far i have listened to it 3-4 times and every time i hear something new and different.

Yes this album is pure ego, but who cares as long as he makes good music. Sure the days of Nothing and A Break In The Clouds were amazing, but he moved on. Cant fault him for wanting to do something different.

**The One** · October 31, 2006, 02:13:54 PM

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I'd just like to add this isnt his artist album. It's an EP with a bunch of tools, hence why it probably comes across as rather disjointed to most of you that are treating it like an album. As for a real artist album - that comes next year..

**jeffrey collins** · October 31, 2006, 04:28:28 PM

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His Balance album was back when he was still into Prog, that's why it's good...at least the first cd IMO.

His Kiss100 Mix was pretty damn good i'd say. I can't seem to get into his productions though.

**palmer** · November 1, 2006, 12:51:11 AM

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Originally posted by man_who_wasnt_there

Same could be said for your comment.

I've listened to 100s of albums like most on here and Nathan Fake's was simply a poor attempt. Happens all too often that producers fail to produce when it comes to an LP.

I just don't understand your taste I guess. I read that you really liked John Grahams album (album of the year I seem to remember you calling it) so I'll just leave it at the fact that we obviously have very different taste in music.
To each his own.

**Jibgolly** · November 1, 2006, 01:28:06 AM

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nevermind him tim, ninety percent of his posts are bourbon based.

**man_who_wasnt_there** · November 1, 2006, 10:49:56 AM

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No point in ever comparing albums against compilations.

**asdf_admin** · November 1, 2006, 12:01:36 PM

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a couple tracks i really enjoyed. just too damn weird for my taste. better luck next time.

**Lorn** · November 1, 2006, 12:16:22 PM

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Originally posted by asdf_admin

a couple tracks i really enjoyed. just too damn weird for my taste. better luck next time.

I guess it is aptly titled then.

**asdf_admin** · November 1, 2006, 12:27:21 PM

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i dunno. i had to TRY to get into this. and i am huge Holden fan. normally it is just hit play and off i go. but this I was fighting with. his other productions have been ace. all of them. but this just was a cheap rip off and toss out.

"let me buy what you have" and I will sell it for millions. i am bummed.

**unrecogniseduser** · November 1, 2006, 04:42:33 PM

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Originally posted by The One

I'd just like to add this isnt his artist album. It's an EP with a bunch of tools, hence why it probably comes across as rather disjointed to most of you that are treating it like an album. As for a real artist album - that comes next year..

so how is track 8 a tool?

**Lorn** · November 1, 2006, 04:56:28 PM

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Originally posted by asdf_admin

i dunno. i had to TRY to get into this. and i am huge Holden fan. normally it is just hit play and off i go. but this I was fighting with. his other productions have been ace. all of them. but this just was a cheap rip off and toss out.

"let me buy what you have" and I will sell it for millions. i am bummed.

Well put sir. Looks like a lot of others feel the same.

**Jia** · November 1, 2006, 07:23:41 PM

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Originally posted by Lorn

Well put sir. Looks like a lot of others feel the same.

Yes, well put. Sometimes I think we get caught up in forcing ourselves to enjoy music that we honestly don't really like. Holden is a great example of that because there are so many people out there that love some of his earlier stuff and really want to like what he's doing now, but just can't get into it. I might fall into that category, though there is some stuff he does nowadays that I do enjoy. I did think that "10101" and "Idiot" were good, but the rest of the album is blah IMO.

**Lorn** · November 1, 2006, 07:53:18 PM

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At least you are willing to give it a listen. If it wasn't Holden or some other producer we all liked this cd wouldn't get the time of day.

James Holden - The Idiots Are Winning

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