kerry, yet again....

[Lorn]

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oh, on a side note, i had drinks with the NY libertarian candidate for attorney general last night, and man........ not electing him is only going to do NY a giant injustice.... its a shame..... also, being halloween, he was dressed in full 1776 outfit. hat and gun, and oh yeah, stockings....... he was carrying a copy of the dec. of independence.

Cool bro. Anything of interest to note about the discussion?

[rubyraks]

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you need to talk to my brother..... he would have quite a bit to say about this, being in west point with honors.... all feild operations soldiers are extremely skilled and educated in particular feilds. the less educated individuals tend to be more geared towards operation engineers and mechanincs..

So you really expect to believe that only the intelligent ones are serving on the front lines? I'm sure they're led by intelligent people though.

How about the girl who was photographed, arrested and jailed for her participation in the Abu Ghraib prison, but was diagnosed as mentally handicapped? If that's the kind of back-office jobs they give the "less educated", do you really think that's helpful?

[rubyraks]

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just thought this.....

sadly this shows how out of base the democratic party is regarding the normal american , they arent here trying to win for us, they want to win for them, much like how they criticize the current group of special ed students living in DC.... they have been fighting tooth and nail for every special interest group and minority voter under the guise of being for the people, when in fact they dont have a clue on the people's values or needs, just what can we do to gain more votes....simply put, they no longer repsect the middle class, somewhat well to do, educated american..

and the Republicans are actually better at this? They managed to hold together a diverse group of interests for only so long, what we're seeing now is the fallout when you can't really appease all the groups.

That's politics in general here in this country. It's cyclical. Get people to think you're better and keep voting for you and then eventually they realize you're just not and the tide switches to the other political party so we could do it all over again. Unfortunately, at the moment, no one's stepped up.

[Lorn]

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I think one answer to all these problems is making it LAW that citizens MUST vote. Or at least show up at the voting poll. We currently see less then 50% voter turn out. I bet the libertarian and independant candidates would win hands down if we had 100% voter turnout.

[Balanc3]

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[thesightless]

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and the Republicans are actually better at this? They managed to hold together a diverse group of interests for only so long, what we're seeing now is the fallout when you can't really appease all the groups.

That's politics in general here in this country. It's cyclical. Get people to think you're better and keep voting for you and then eventually they realize you're just not and the tide switches to the other political party so we could do it all over again. Unfortunately, at the moment, no one's stepped up.

which is why i wrote ''the special ed students living in DC"

and actually, the repub are better at courting the normal middle income american...most of them share common ideas, not execution, with the party's long term goals. but the repubs say fuck off to the specail money too much to stand a long term chance at this rate.

[alexfish333]

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The thing here is that what Kerry said was totally right. If you grow up going to the level of public schools we currently have in this country then you really have few options: Sports, Army, Crime and or welfare. I said this on Monday night to my roommate and girlfriend and they agreed and then the next day, when I read this I was like-fuck thank god someone said this finally. It’s a good thing that I’m not a politician because clearly coming right out and saying this doesn’t go over well but the fact is, while we spend more and more money in Iraq on a USELESS we’re letting our schools and other publicly funded programs fall apart. As the schools fall apart, so do the arts and so do any real ways out of the ghettos. We also are increasingly giving tax breaks to BIG BUSINESS that outsources all of the labor (another former possibility for undereducated people) and we now are just a nation of consumers. The fact is, you do wind up in Iraq if you’re a good (albeit undereducated) person from low income areas of the country with ASS schools. And Sean, it’s complete bollocks to say that it’s the highly trained people on the ground-it’s not. The infantry is always the worst of the lot, they’re just bodies to push through until the really skilled people can get into place.

[Miroslav]

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heh...

John Kerry...demonstrating once more when he wasn't elected president! Let's give him a hand!!!

[thesightless]

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you all need to look up what really happens in the military, i know firsthand. the ''gunners'' might not be the high IQ folks on the think tank side, but they are all schooled heavily in a certain area. the dumbshits get back line jobs like prison gurads.. im not getting in this, but you guys need to go ask an actual serviceman, instead of us here.


first step, research what an MOS number is.



most frontline infantry are educated in geography, biology, and engineering.

Fish, you are way off on what ya said.

[alexfish333]

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Why didn't you sign up for the army Sean?

[thesightless]

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im ineligible.(elbow replacement)

[rubyraks]

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[FONT=Arial]It?s a good thing that I?m not a politician because clearly coming right out and saying this doesn?t go over

hehe, Alex a politician...I could just see it now, you'd be booted out of elections faster than Howard Dean in Iowa

Not to ridicule what you said, cause I agree with most of it. We could keep talking about this and that, but at the end of the day our educational system sucks and this discussion just further proves it. We don't educate our children and they grow up dumb, then they join the army "to do something important" and then actually get a good education on how to fight the war, hence they're properly trained. It's a catch-22.

[rubyraks]

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im ineligible.(elbow replacement)

I'm guessing from some brawl when you were younger or over-masturbation?

[thesightless]

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ben, you are denying what the military does teach. it is so much more than ''war'' every person there who doesnt opt to be a life long feild commander, gets a strong dose of either learning a trade in and out, or a strong study in a variaty of feilds, from international law, all the way to forensics....

[thesightless]

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I'm guessing from some brawl when you were younger or over-masturbation?

funny wiseass. its from a repeat breaking from sports, first soccer, then twice in aikido. the humerous was shattered beyond repair the third time around. the whole growth plate was unrepairable.