The New Atheists

[Yao]

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/08/atheism.feature/index.html

CNN's comments are leaning a bit towards favouring the religious part of the people, but loking at the last 2000 years, one does have to wonder what the most striking impact of religion on this planet has been. Violence certainly makes a good chance of ending high on the charts I have to say...

[thesightless]

Re: The New Atheists

aethiests are assholes who found a problem and scapegoated. at least the ones who vocally share the idea of aethiesm. faith, when not being hijacked by a towel head, is a great thing.

[Lorn]

Re: The New Atheists

I enjoyed a good laugh reading in that article that they think of themselves as the new minority group.

Rubbish.

[thesightless]

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anyone notice that, for the most part, aethiests are spiteful cunts. i was just driving b4 and i love how they took the jesus fish symbol, and put legs on it and call it darwin. i mean comon, who made that up? someone who was held in the vatican city jail for badmouthing god?

[Yao]

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lol, i think hat one is funny. I'm not all about this minority-group attitude, but yes...I am actually opposed to organized religion: man gets corrupted too easily, and there has been to much abuse of power in religion and deifnitely too many victims of that in the past.

[Lorn]

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^I agree man gets corrupted easily but in my view that is not a reason to ban organized religion.

[thesightless]

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elton john should shut the fuck up IMO.

everything is seen through filtered and opinionated eyes. and usually, the most opinionated and filtered views come from those with the loudest mouths.

since the advent of self governence by people, instead of church, what has the church done to hurt civilization? not much, the only place where religion is fucking things up is you know where, and every country there has religion saying too much.

[speciale]

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see though how intense you are getting over religion. that is the problem. people are killing each other based on their religion.

religion is better when it is kept in the house and out of politics IMO. I am religious but I don't push my faith on anyone else.

[Lorn]

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Great observation Sean. One can see how leaders would be corrupted even more when the have both political and religious power.

[thesightless]

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wow, im intense. thanks!

but hardly a ''missionary'' here. keep it to yourself IMO> but the few morons who scream about it like homo john over there in the UK, shoudl shut up. whatever you follow, whereever you follow, it does vast amounts of good in society. from housing homeless here in NY, to building homes in africa. even the mosques in the ME, provide vital services to ppl . im just saying that ppl like elton john hate religion b/c it disagrees with thier life. in particular, gays have a problem because no religion really condones the gay lifestyle. so you know what? shut up and accept that while you might beleive in god, the church doesnt accept you, they dont have to. but you are entitled to follow the bible, koran, whatever on your terms, so keep it to yourself.

[Lorn]

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amen

[Lrn]

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amen

is that suposed to be ironic, two words, religious crusades
btw i cant belive how many people in here seem to use cnn is there primary online sourse for news, i think that sould be of more concern

[thesightless]

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lmao, we currently have threads where various ppl trash every news network, i guess everyone is wrong.

and please, for the love of everything good, stop bringing up the crusades. only one of the 4 was offensive in nature, and frankly, there wasnt anything resembling government in the period. it was chruch and royalty that ruled. different times, different people. no media, no idea of self governence, no voting.

its like blacks blaming whites for slavery at every step. we know its wrong, but it was a different period in time where no one knew better and the basic moral systems in the world were different.

[Lrn]

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ok then what about morals and ethics preached by people who on one side say gay people are going to hell and on the other side hire gay prostitues and smoke meth.

and what about choir boys and the catholic priests

whatever i jsut dont like cnn and fox news i dont car what other popel think

and im sorry if you think the collapes of the Ottoman empire as

offensive in nature,

to you

[thesightless]

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only playing devils advocate here. personally, the ppl who under the mask of the church do things like molest kids, well, the only valid response is jail. they are sick and vile.

but.... put it in perspective... how many ppl do the churches employ?????? i mean, we arent saying islam is bad b/c a small number of clerics are out to destroy isreal. i dont automatically link it to a murdering army b/c al sadr has an army.

the molestations were BLOWN up, at fault to the chruch, b/c they were covered up as opposed to the church respecting law and handing pedophiles over to the law. if they came out loud, and condemmed them and let the police jail them right off, the PR disaster would have been avoided.

the guy who had the whore and meth..... he is vile and clearly was using his position to make money, its rare that the evangelical leaders are actually in it for faith. for every one of these asshats, you have 1000 ppl like billy grahem and the rabbi gellman, ie, ppl who dont ask much, advocate the good in ppl. its the morons like pat robertson who use ppl's faith to brainwash and call for asassinations that are evil.