Barrack Hussein Obama

[toasty]

Anyone notice that now that Obama is starting to pick up some momentum, more and more people -- specifically those who would oppose him -- are conspicuously dropping his middle name into discussion?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/12/the_obama_backlash_its_started.html

[Localizer]

Re: Barrack Hussein Obama

he's potentially gonna be the JFK of our time.

[subterFUSE]

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He doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of beating Hillary for the nomination. Just wait and see.

[kningl]

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Sigh...difficult to argue against vastly naive generalizations...

"I know! Let's tie 'Obama' with 'Hussein' every chance we get! If we equate his politics with Islam, he'll never win!"

Much as I'd like to believe the opposite, America is not ready for Obama or Hillary. I want to see how the House is run with Pelosi at the reins (and how the media ultimattely portray her)...

[Lorn]

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It is sad but true...he will not win with a name like that in these times. Perhaps he should change his name to John Smith.

[Localizer]

Re: Barrack Hussein Obama

Ya, you guys are right. We already see this shit with hollywood and actors with pseudo names to make it easier and catchy for people to remember.

[asdf_admin]

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i like him. i really do. seems like he got his shit straight. i watched him on Oprah yesterday. I just simply like the guy. I would vote for him.

[kningl]

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Saw a re-run of Late Night with Conan, when Conan was in Chicago (electric atmosphere!), and Obama was the guest. Very personable, seems like he has this air of approachability, seems kind of a lost trait in this age of politics.

[superdave]

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Isn't politics great? The dirty side is fun to watch.

I like Obama's charisma, but I don't know much about what he would do if President. I'm sure we'll hear more about him as time goes by. At this point, I feel he's really going for the VP job with Hillary going for President.

[toasty]

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was watching CNN this morning. Wolf Blitzer was apologizing for a "typographical error" in a story about bin Laden in which the graphic "Where's Osama" accidentally read "Where's Obama." And these guys are supposed to be the liberals?

[88Mariner]

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i love how everyone is talking about his personality and very little about his values and his political and economic beliefs.

this is why we've got idiots running the country. because people vote on personality. it's so easy not to think critically about candidates, that thinking in general has nearly become obsolete.

[thesightless]

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your comment is very true, And ppl will flame it, because if those who are on his wagon right now actually looked shit up once in awhile, you'd realize he has spent his career as a strict party line politician, his voting is IDENTICAL to hillary clintons. IDENTICAL. look at actions, not speeches

[toasty]

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i love how everyone is talking about his personality and very little about his values and his political and economic beliefs.

this is why we've got idiots running the country. because people vote on personality. it's so easy not to think critically about candidates, that thinking in general has nearly become obsolete.

I dunno, although I generally agree with the idea that the masses are asses, we're a long ways out from the 2008 election right now, and discussions about potential candidates tend to be based upon much broader criteria at this stage, including things like electability, likeability, etc. Big donors are trying to figure out where they want to channel their cash, and no one wants to throw money behind someone who isn't going to be able to win, no matter what they think of their policies.

The reality is that there is a large part of the population that does vote based upon such touchy-feely things; it would be stupid for those people that do look at candidates more critically to ignore the overarching question of whether this person can actually win, so the very superficial discussion of presidential candidates that happens at this point in election cycles does serve a useful purpose, I think.

When we we leading up to the 2004 election, people would ask me who I wanted to take the democratic nomination, and my answer was always the same: anyone who can beat George W. Bush (thanks a heap, Iowa and New Hapshire ). Things are not so grave this time around, at least looking at the current batch of would-be candidates, so I plan to be a lot pickier, but the ability to resonate with the masses and actually win the election is a point of legitimate inquiry.

[88Mariner]

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your comment is very true, And ppl will flame it, because if those who are on his wagon right now actually looked shit up once in awhile, you'd realize he has spent his career as a strict party line politician, his voting is IDENTICAL to hillary clintons. IDENTICAL. look at actions, not speeches

i wrote a really long response to all the reasons why Obama would make a horrible president, divide the country into more than just left vs. right fragments, and is not just a democratic mouthpiece and a liberal idealogue, but an equally progressive candidate like Hilary Clinton who, so far, has been able to cover this with fuzzy moderation. But then, I'm just doing all the work for some of you. maybe i'll post it later.

here's a question for those who have pointed out his personality:

What kind of personality do you think is necessary for a president?

[toasty]

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here's a question for those who have pointed out his personality:

What kind of personality do you think is necessary for a president?

Simply put, he should have one. Look back to the last few races:

-Bush II v Kerry (complete bore)
-Bush II v Gore (complete stiff)
-Clinton v. Dole (completely out of touch)
-Clinton v Bush (Clinton's the more affable guy, but he actually owes his presidency to Ross Perot)
-Bush I v Dukakis ('nuff said)
-Reagan v. Mondale (duh)

I guess in retrospect, there's a legitimate question as to whether the winners were more helped by their own positive personality traits, or their opponents' lack thereof.