Xone Mixed In Key software

**Caley Martin** · February 11, 2007, 02:02:08 PM

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I think when you become too reliant on technology to accomplish tasks that your talents should have been able to, then something is wrong. A trained ear can easily mix in key on the fly IMO.

**geoffgulley** · February 11, 2007, 05:28:27 PM

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^^ ditto... either you know what works or you don't... if you need a computer program to tell you please don't dj.... imo.

**SyntaxTerror** · February 11, 2007, 05:59:53 PM

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Tend to agree with you guys. It just means there'll be more crap djs out there to filter through before finding the good ones

**Lorn** · February 11, 2007, 07:20:58 PM

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I'm with you guys on this.

Might be useful on the production front though.

FM · February 11, 2007, 11:22:16 PM

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I seriously wish they had some sort of demo to test before seeing if its worth it (and its reading speed/accuracy of detection). I've been using Mixmeister for such for a long time (which some tests have indicated it's extremely high accuracy)...and it's a bit slow at times, probably because my computer isn't too state-of-the-art these days...

And while a trained ear can mix in beat quickly and detect such, very few have the knowledge and wiring to accurately mix in key virtually over an entire set...some sections here and there yes, and that's based on knowing your tracks. Stuff like this can take the set programming to another level if utilized properly.

**geoffgulley** · February 12, 2007, 12:02:15 AM

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.. in my mind it completely takes spontinatity out of the equation. If you're dj'ing and drop a turd on the room because you played a track that happened to be "in key" with the previous track are you going to not play a song that gets the crowd back into it because it doesn't "harmonically" flow? Have we become so fucking anal that we can only play an A or B major song after an E major song (or another E major song of course)? I'm sorry but the dj and crowd dictates the direction of the music, not some software that helps you figure out what friggin key it was recorded in... A good dj can take a 118 bpm A major track and work it in with a 132 bpm C minor if they know how and/or what the fuck they're doing and not have anybody blink an eye.... and (this is not a knock on you FM...) if you're using software like mixmeister to spin out you're not a "dj" you're a programmer and delusional. I have no problem with using software to produce radio shows, tracks etc but live at a club.... sorry, no fucking way (unless it like torq or serrato).

FM · February 13, 2007, 08:42:34 PM

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oh yes, track knowledge still needs to be in there...just because you know the keys and which way they go, doesn't mean you know when and how to mix it in (where the intros/outros are, how much of a buildup, breakdown, etc.)...key or not, if it's just bass drum beats matching a while, that's not always the greatest mix to do

Sorry on my clarification; I don't use MM to mix out live (nor with what's out there would I ever recommend one does such in a club environment

), but it's an excellent tool to analyze files and spit back the BPM and keys to then put on the sheet in the jacket.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Serato eventually add that feature as well (already does BPM)....this program does do what others haven't yet and that's write out the info. to ID3 tags.

Still though, for $58 I'd love to test it first in some capacity...

**SyntaxTerror** · February 13, 2007, 10:46:09 PM

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Hard to release a demo on a piece of software which you ultimately only ever need to run once on each track you have. Too easy to crack to do your whole collection and forget about it.

**Jibgolly** · February 13, 2007, 10:54:10 PM

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Originally posted by geoffgulley

.. in my mind it completely takes spontinatity out of the equation. If you're dj'ing and drop a turd on the room because you played a track that happened to be "in key" with the previous track are you going to not play a song that gets the crowd back into it because it doesn't "harmonically" flow? Have we become so fucking anal that we can only play an A or B major song after an E major song (or another E major song of course)? I'm sorry but the dj and crowd dictates the direction of the music, not some software that helps you figure out what friggin key it was recorded in... A good dj can take a 118 bpm A major track and work it in with a 132 bpm C minor if they know how and/or what the fuck they're doing and not have anybody blink an eye.... and (this is not a knock on you FM...) if you're using software like mixmeister to spin out you're not a "dj" you're a programmer and delusional. I have no problem with using software to produce radio shows, tracks etc but live at a club.... sorry, no fucking way (unless it like torq or serrato).

i agree with you 200% here. recently had a couple friends start using this, but for me... it takes away that spontaneous element that makes or breaks a dj. i will never rely on software to tell me what track to play next, however i do agree to a certain extent that if you are a more "melodical" dj that this program may in fact be a great tool. to each his own. where it might help one dj, it might slow another one down.

i prefer on the fly at all times when playing out.

making a mix cd, using this program, is a whole other discussion.

**unkownartist** · February 14, 2007, 01:33:13 PM

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this is the start of the end of the dj as we know it

**geoffgulley** · February 14, 2007, 02:51:59 PM

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^^ I'm pretty damn passionate about what I do and anytime I hear about a "new technology" to help you mix better I just want to go dig out my old 1200's and switch back to strictly vinyl. I've never in my life counted intro/outro measures, tried to figure out what key a track is in or even really bothered to count or catalog bpm's... i just listened to the tracks and either decided I liked it and it would work in my set or it wouldn't... that's it. Had nothing to do with it being "trance" or "progressive house" etc either... It was either a good track (imo) or it wasn't. When the DJM-800 came out with "Auto Harmonic Tuning" I was like "What the fuck? I need a fucking mixer to make my set sound in tune?"... Seriously, it makes me want to puke....

**Jenks** · February 14, 2007, 09:24:50 PM

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GHEY!!

This is just as useless to me as organizing records by key. Give me a fking break.

My record bag is a fucking mess, probably too much of a mess, which requires sorting through it right before my gig, but biiiiig deal. DJing is supposed to be fun, we're not trying to cure cancer here people. The sets i end up playing the best are the ones i walk in the club, take a shot (required before playing) grab a beer and play.

If you can't hear that two records don't go together without a program i dunno...ur missing something in your ear. Let's just suck all the fun out of djing.

**cmhollis** · February 16, 2007, 11:46:04 AM

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I have a question for you guys - Is there software out there that allows one to mix mp3 files on a pc? Ive collected vinyl for about 15 years and always just mixed for the fun of it, very low tech. Now that Ive been collecting loads of mp3 files, Id like to be able to splice together all my favorites. Any suggestions?

**Jenks** · February 16, 2007, 11:56:15 AM

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