Arrest Warrant Issued for former Iranian President

**KinKyJ** · March 14, 2007, 03:11:32 PM

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Probably as far as Belgium has ever gotten with trying Sharon for the 1982 massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Beirut.

**davetlv** · March 14, 2007, 03:18:56 PM

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Originally posted by KinKyJ

Probably as far as Belgium has ever gotten with trying Sharon for the 1982 massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Beirut.

Neither the state of Israel nor Arial Sharon killed those Palestinians - remember to search facts before you let your fingers do the typing. Also Mr holier than fucking tho, what connection does Belgium have to Beirut.

This so called Iranian ex-President is being directly accused of arming, funding and paying for the attacks, which did not take place in a war zone, but was a deliberate attack by a foreign agent on a sovereign country country and its people and it is that country that is demanding his arrest.

Now run after your fundi masters Jan like the good Dhimmi you are.

**KinKyJ** · March 14, 2007, 05:04:00 PM

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Originally posted by davetlv

what connection does Belgium have to Beirut.

Something like the Genocide Law maybe? Research ya know? Btw, I agree: it wasn't the state nor Sharon who actually killed. It were the IDF troops under command of Sharon. But yeah, you don't blame Mladic and Karadic for wiping out a few villages in Bosnia either, do you?

Now run after your fundi masters Jan like the good Dhimmi you are.

Don't bump your head while wailing, k?

**davetlv** · March 14, 2007, 05:25:37 PM

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Originally posted by KinKyJ

Something like the Genocide Law maybe? Research ya know?

Belgium is neither the UN nor the International Court - you have no authority to try ANYONE for crimes that were not committed in your country, or at the very least a citizens against citizens of your country.

Unless I'm mistaken Beirut is not in Belgium and the people who used your dubious law in the first place were not Belgium citizens.

However, the State of Argentina issued the warrant for crimes committed in its country against its citizens. Do you object to that?

As for your additional comments - its good to see you Europeans still bowing to vile ideologies like you did 60 years ago; you gave into to mad men then like you are doing now. Enjoy your freedoms while you can Jan and don't forget to pay that Dhimmi tax.

And now to prove my point that you are truly ignorant:

Originally posted by KinKyJ

It were the IDF troops under command of Sharon

History recall the events a little bit differently from our little metro-sexual from Belgium.

The Sabra and Shatila massacre (or Sabra and Chatila massacre ; Arabic: صبرا وشاتيلا) was carried out in September 1982 by Lebanese Maronite Christianmilitias against Palestinian refugee camps. The Maronite forces stood under the direct command of Elie Hobeika, who would later become a longtime Lebanese parliament member and in the 1990s also a cabinet minister. The number of victims of the massacre is estimated at 700-3500

Source

Maybe you should stick to plucking your eyebrows, for historical accuracy is clearly not your strong point.

Now go fetch that bone that's being thrown to you by your master - Good Dhimmi

**KinKyJ** · March 14, 2007, 05:46:45 PM

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Well Mr. Encyclopaedia, Belgium isn't the UN indeed, but if you did some research *cough cough* you would've known that the Genocide Law was adopted to bring the responsibles of the Rwanda genocide to justice so hence it's international reach. But yeah, what do I know right?

Btw, calling me an ignorant while talking crap about dhimmis and what not makes you an arrogant retard. Like I said, it's not that in genral I don't agree with you, it's just that I'm critical. But I know you have something against criticism which doesn't suit you.

**dig72** · March 14, 2007, 08:34:33 PM

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Kahan Commission (1983)

Israeli judicial commission that investigated the 1982 massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Beirut.

The Israeli government established the Commission of Inquiry into the Events at the Refugee Camps in Beirut (the Kahan Commission) in response to a massive public outcry following the killing of an estimated 800 to 1,200 Palestinian civilians in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps on the outskirts of Beirut by right-wing Christian militiamen, primarily of the Lebanese Phalange Party, on 16 and 18 September 1982.

The massacres occurred in territory under the control of the Israel Defense Force in the wake of Israel's June 1982 invasion of Lebanon, and the perpetrators were Israeli allies.

On 24 September 1982, some 400,000 Israelis demonstrated in Tel Aviv against their country's continuing involvement in Lebanon and in favor of an official investigation into the massacres.

The three-person commission was chaired by Yitzhak Kahan, president of the Supreme Court; the other members were Aharon Barak, a Supreme Court justice, and retired army general Yona Efrat.

The commission issued its report on 7 February 1983. It noted that the Phalange had secured the permission of Major General Amir Drori, of the Northern Command, to enter the camps.

This was approved by Israel's chief of staff, Lieutenant General Rafael Eitan, and Minister of Defense Ariel Sharon. The commission found that Israel's leaders and commanders bore indirect responsibility for the massacre by not anticipating Phalange revenge attacks against the unprotected Palestinians and by not acting to halt the killings soon enough, once indications of the bloodletting began to emerge from the camps.

The commission chastised Prime Minister Menachem Begin, Foreign Minister Yitzhak Shamir, and the (unnamed) head of the Mossad for their indifference to the events at the time, but it found particular fault with Drori, Eitan, the director of military intelligence General Yehoshua Saguy, and Division Commander General Amos Yaron.

Most seriously, the commission found that Ariel Sharon bore personal responsibility for the tragedy and recommended that the prime minister consider removing him from office.

On 10 February 1983, the cabinet voted to remove Sharon from his position as defense minister, although he remained as minister without portfolio.

Given the dread with which most Israelis came to regard the Lebanese quagmire in which Israel remained embroiled for the next seventeen years, Sharon's election as prime minister in February 2001 constituted a remarkable case of political rehabilitation.

But the disaster in Lebanon dogged his premiership when, in June 2001, a group of Sabra and Shatila survivors filed a war-crimes complaint against him in a Belgian court under a 1993 Belgian law allowing claimants to bring cases against foreigners accused of crimes against humanity, regardless of where they occurred.

One year later, however, a Belgian appeals court dismissed the case on the grounds that Sharon was not domiciled in Belgium, so the case never went to trial.

No Lebanese inquiry into the massacre was ever carried through to completion.

**davetlv** · March 15, 2007, 02:45:20 AM

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Very good dig, now go hijack another thread - your views on Argentina issuing arrest warrants for crimes committed against its nationals on its territory are what exactly?

**dig72** · March 16, 2007, 12:15:54 AM

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Originally posted by davetlv

Very good dig, now go hijack another thread - your views on Argentina issuing arrest warrants for crimes committed against its nationals on its territory are what exactly?

Just spreading some relevent information that I think Kinky and others might find interesting since both you guys were talking about it.

I believe every nation is entitled to issue arrest warrants for persons who have committed crimes against its nationals on its territory.

In saying this though, the evidence brought foward must be must be strong and also very reliable. If this can be done then go for it.

There was that much corruption, cover ups and scandel involved in this investigation that it has got to the stage that we may never know the truth. Hard evidence would have gone missing, people would have been paid to keep their mouths shut, lie or falsify evidence ect, ect.

The scary thing is, that no one has been convicted of anything to do with crime as of yet. Not one person.

It appears that being indirectily involved in crimes these days doesn't really get you jailed anyways.

**thesightless** · March 16, 2007, 03:29:53 PM

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the US should allow the iranian president to come here for the UN sanctions vote next week and arrest him for his role in the Iranian embassy hostage events. just lock him up in Rikers island the minute he walks off the plane in JFK.

**malayday** · March 19, 2007, 02:15:31 AM

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isnt israeli pres. under investigation right now for rape or something..i think it was 7 women?....and olmert for his handling of the war and abuse of power or some such thing....
lets arrest them too..oh yeah a bush as well..aswell as the ol short fart howard and his pommy cousin the blair...
im sure we could dig up some dirt on these bitches...they must be up for some crimes against something....i mean...
if it solves the problem....

**apollo_1444** · March 19, 2007, 11:56:22 AM

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fucking muslims

**KinKyJ** · March 19, 2007, 05:17:27 PM

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^^^ fucking taco munching tequilla guzzling donkey humping border jumper [/sarcasm]

Originally posted by dig72

Just spreading some relevent information that I think Kinky and others might find interesting since both you guys were talking about it.

Yup, thanks for that, appreciate it.

I believe every nation is entitled to issue arrest warrants for persons who have committed crimes against its nationals on its territory.

In saying this though, the evidence brought foward must be must be strong and also very reliable. If this can be done then go for it.

There was that much corruption, cover ups and scandel involved in this investigation that it has got to the stage that we may never know the truth. Hard evidence would have gone missing, people would have been paid to keep their mouths shut, lie or falsify evidence ect, ect.

The scary thing is, that no one has been convicted of anything to do with crime as of yet. Not one person.

It appears that being indirectily involved in crimes these days doesn't really get you jailed anyways.

Agree completely with that dig. There already have been a few convictions in the Rwanda genocide trials before the court of The Hague as well as convictions for war crimes commited during the Balkan war. But (especially in the Balkan war crimes procedures) the big fish haven't been caught yet. I don't think it's scary that criminals like Mladic and Karadizic are still on the loose, I think it's an outrage!

Originally posted by thesightless

the US should allow the iranian president to come here for the UN sanctions vote next week and arrest him for his role in the Iranian embassy hostage events. just lock him up in Rikers island the minute he walks off the plane in JFK.

Yeah, it's not like the US respects international law anyways

Originally posted by malayday

isnt israeli pres. under investigation right now for rape or something..i think it was 7 women?....and olmert for his handling of the war and abuse of power or some such thing....
lets arrest them too..oh yeah a bush as well..aswell as the ol short fart howard and his pommy cousin the blair...
im sure we could dig up some dirt on these bitches...they must be up for some crimes against something....i mean...
if it solves the problem....

Yeah well, Chirac is going to be under investigation too for fraude and what not when his term ends in May of this year. So what? As much as I think that especially Bush should answer for a shitload of things you could see as crimes against humanity and what not, I don't think anyone should waste a minute on it right now. Putting people like Bush et al behind bars won't solve anything: Baghdad will wake up the next morning to the sound of car bombs either way...

**Bululu** · March 19, 2007, 07:50:57 PM

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**KinKyJ** · March 19, 2007, 08:34:27 PM

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^^^ First of all it's "chico" not "chiquo" and secondly drop that retarded shit Bululu, really... There's no need to encourage that childish bitchslapping here. I'm sure Apollo 14whatever will grow out of that puberty phase once his pubic hair starts curling

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