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Re: What are your thoughts on MP3 audio quality?
I think he's trying to say that it's ok to use 96kbps to record his mixes and burn some cd's for his friends, not that he'll play 96kbps mp3s at a club. Anyone with the intention to use sound files professionally should know to stay away from mp3s or other lossy compression formats in the first place, complaining about the quality loss of a compressed lossy audio format is rather obvious.Originally posted by hickey34Comment
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Re: What are your thoughts on MP3 audio quality?
maybe this is why people should invest in some good needles and play more vinyl
mixes: www.waxdj.com/miroslavComment
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anyone who says that 96k is good in the clubs is also the people who say that mackie self powered speakers are excellent for club sound.Comment
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This was my statement. I forgot I was logged in under my buddy.
Im scared of stuff like this...Im all for listening to 192's on your I-Pod..cheaper, smaller, whatever.....
What Im trying to say is that everyone's ears are getting used to that compressed MP3 sound. For example.....
Stranded on an island, forced to eat seaweed or whatever....
Tastes like shit at first but after a few weeks you become numb to the taste.
I know DJ's that play 192's in the club. Hardly anyone notices...or cares.
It makes my ears bleedie...
^^^^^^^This is exactly why I brought this up.
I believe MP3's are killing vinyl, killing analogue. Causing people to forget the warm luscious full range of wax.
Vinyl's not dead. I know some people who play vinyl...still appreciate vinyl.
For example, Habersham played here a few months ago.....
Every track played was his own white label press on vinyl, not one CD. Most the M_NUS kids play vinyl including Richie.
Do you see DJ's play vinyl anymore?
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lol vinyl was already dead b4 the mp3.....lets look @ it
this is the shape of the grooves on a new piece of vinyl.......
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this is that same piece after 100 plays
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after 200 plays
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u get me? ( its not exactly the best illistration )
anyone who thinks that vinyl is a good media for music is insane in my opinion and u only have to go back and play ur grandads old 78's to see what happens to this type of media over time, i,m the type of guy that in 30 40 years wants to go back and hear the sound i was listening to now exactly how i hear it now
tbh i dont see many people play vinyl anymore and imo thats a good thing
dont get me wrong though coz i love itComment
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You are one of these people Im talking about who is contributing to the death of sound quality. Proving exactly the point Im trying to make.
This makes no sense
FYI
taken from: http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question487.htmA digital recording takes snapshots of the analog signal at a certain rate (for CDs it is 44,100 times per second) and measures each snapshot with a certain accuracy (for CDs it is 16-bit, which means the value must be one of 65,536 possible values).......
This means that, by definition, a digital recording is not capturing the complete sound wave. It is approximating it with a series of steps. Some sounds that have very quick transitions, such as a drum beat or a trumpet's tone, will be distorted because they change too quickly for the sample rate.
In your home stereo the CD or DVD player takes this digital recording and converts it to an analog signal, which is fed to your amplifier. The amplifier then raises the voltage of the signal to a level powerful enough to drive your speaker.
A vinyl record has a groove carved into it that mirrors the original sound's waveform. This means that no information is lost. The output of a record player is analog. It can be fed directly to your amplifier with no conversion.
This means that the waveforms from a vinyl recording can be much more accurate, and that can be heard in the richness of the sound. But there is a downside, any specks of dust or damage to the disc can be heard as noise or static. During quiet spots in songs this noise may be heard over the music. Digital recordings don't degrade over time, and if the digital recording contains silence, then there will be no noise.
I'll take the downside of vinyl over the downsides of digital anyday. Comment
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This pretty much says it right here....
"This means that the waveforms from a vinyl recording can be much more accurate, and that can be heard in the richness of the sound. But there is a downside, any specks of dust or damage to the disc can be heard as noise or static. During quiet spots in songs this noise may be heard over the music. Digital recordings don't degrade over time, and if the digital recording contains silence, then there will be no noise."
but vinyl sounds way better than digital imo.
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Re: What are your thoughts on MP3 audio quality?
u obviously do not know anything about the bandwidth of vinyl, vinyl has a max bandwidth of around 16 Khz and cd quality audio has a bandwidth of around 20 Khz, ur going in the wrong direction if u want to argue about analog vrs digital, in theory analog is better BUT when u take electrical noise into this equasion the digital wins hands down, there is actually no contest,but higher qualit analog stuff is still favoured but it costs a shitload of cash, sure ur analog sounds warmer with that little noise ( that most of u wont notice ) but ur arguing about the wrong thing here completely, if u wanna start talking about lossy compression then fine u win hands down and this is what mp3 uses to get the file sizes down but if ur talking about analog and digital there are many many arguments to be looked at, the first diagram shows a very basic digital wave layed over a perfect since wav cycle, hell ur lucky if that digital wave is 8 bit ( a cd is 16 bit ) , this conversion happens so fast that the bandwidth of the ear cant tell the difference and if u increase the sample rate and the bit rate u would be pushed to notice the difference in the actual wav as u would have to zoom in many times to be able to notice, lets take cd audio quality for example, each second of sine wav has 65,536 "points" in which that wave is sampled digitally ( per second that is btw )and that reproduces that sine wav well although it may not be exactly exact when u compare it to a pur sine wav but the bandwidth of the ear wont be able to tell the difference.........
brb i,m not finished my nets fuckin up.......to be continued
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ok back sorry about that my connections been doin funny things all day, back on subject........
to notice the difference in a basic cd quality digital wav u would have to zoom in wayyyyyy further than the like of soundforge can go and if u increase the sample rate and also the bit depth then then the digital wav becomes increasingly more like the origonal analog wave it sampled and the harmonic content also increases which some digital waves are sorely lacking but again the human ear will not be able to tell the difference usually because of the bandwidth of ur hearing, ok i,m gonna shut up now lol, study lossy compression rather than analog vrs digital is all i,m trying to say because in some way analog is better and in some ways digital is betterLast edited by unkownartist; April 30, 2007, 09:15:34 AM.Comment
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here is the perfect example of why vinyls a done thing, this is probibly a brand new piece of vinyl that was recorded today, sounds like someones just poured coke into the rice crispies
if that was mp3 OR cd then that noise wouldnt be thereComment
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You're all on crack. 8-track for the win.
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i bet u think i,m the anti christ when it comes to vinyl but that isnt the case, i have a shitload of it myself but for me the digital media is better for me as its more accessable and much cleaner, i have a choice, i can either drive 40 or 50 miles to find a good record store buy some vinyl then drive another 40 or 50 miles to my home which costs money or i can sit @ pc listening to songs online that i wanna buy, i dont know about u but i would rather spend the money on more songs rather than spend it on travel costs for that touching 100 mile round trip plus on vinyl if i like one song and dont like the rest of those songs i still have to pay for the ones a dont like, i get the vinyl back and play it for the first time, maybe its not such a good pressing so it doesnt sound as good as i would like it so i,m stuck with it, for me vinyl is not a good media although this is what i learned my trade on so like most of u i have a love for it also but again its fact that vinyl sales are down due to cds and also other digital media, maybe there is still the same market for the songs or whatever but the way people are buying music is changing, thats fact like it or not and for me i think about the future and all i can see is the quality of digital media getting better and better, if we all had some of the attitudes that have been shown in this post then we would all still be buying tapes etc, adapt or just do whatever makes u happy, personally i dont care its your own choice, you still get songs that get released on vinyl that wont make it to the digital market but i think thats old purists trying to hold onto a part of them that they dont want to let go of and thats there choiceComment
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anyway http://www.myspace.com/waronvinyl go knock urselfs out, have fun
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