JOHN KERRY DOCUMENTARY ON HIS VIEWS ON IRAQ!!!

[pacific493]

"sounds kinda like havin a chili seed lodged in your penis, after a dirty night out with a mexican whore."

haha niice one balanc, oh hmmm heres one for you!
Why do midgets smile when they play football??????
Because when they run...the grass tickles their BALLS!!! Ohhhhhhhhh

Oh yeah check out this BULLSHIT!! See how kerry supporters rip up a BUSH-CHENEY sign of an adorable 3 year old girl!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250

This is the insidious nature and perilous politics of the democrats. Hey you know what i've been hearing alot of lately from my democratic constituants??? They keep saying they are honestly thinking about moving to another country...they are ashamed of the US. HIT THE STREETz GEEKz!!

Not too different in kind than how any appearance of dissent or dissension is treated by the Bush-Cheney thugs.

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[Trancelucent One]

Have you tried buying anything lately? The real estate Market has become so astronomically high that only the wealthy can afford to buy a home.

This is not true. My father is in real estate...interest rates are at an all time low and sales for real estate are up...very up. He sold more houses last year than the 3 previous years combined. If you ever watch the news, you would know that real estate is one of the least volatile markets right now and that sales are very high. Oh and he doesn't sell $million homes either, so it's not just the extremely wealthy that are buying homes. Maybe you should also consider where you live...sure real estate is always a hell of a lot higher in beach areas. That really isn't news though, most people who live on or near the beach are very wealthy. I think with a $60K income you would defiantely be able to find something, maybe just not on the beach.

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interesting, but doesn't really bring back a loss of 87 billion dollars, nor did it rebuild iraq's infrastructure, nor did it end terrorism, nor did it bring down gas prices.

complete waste of money and time, imo.

[neoee]

Have you tried buying anything lately? The real estate Market has become so astronomically high that only the wealthy can afford to buy a home.

This is not true. My father is in real estate...interest rates are at an all time low and sales for real estate are up...very up. He sold more houses last year than the 3 previous years combined. If you ever watch the news, you would know that real estate is one of the least volatile markets right now and that sales are very high. Oh and he doesn't sell $million homes either, so it's not just the extremely wealthy that are buying homes. Maybe you should also consider where you live...sure real estate is always a hell of a lot higher in beach areas. That really isn't news though, most people who live on or near the beach are very wealthy. I think with a $60K income you would defiantely be able to find something, maybe just not on the beach.

Pam- I think your looking at things from the wrong angle. As of note, I recently bought my first house. So I am fully aware of how 'hot' the market is.

Interest rates are low due to the Federal Reserve cutting them to boost the economy. The chairman of the FR is Alan Greenspan who has been designated Chairman by Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush. When the economy starts to suffer they lower the rates to stir things up. You say interest rates are down as if they are a good thing. They are only down because our current economy is shit. You father may have sold the most homes ever but did you consider the whole picture?

My company has cut over 40,000 jobs since 9/11 (this is a very conservative figure. Most of those laid off were forced to sell their homes to downgrade to smaller cheaper homes. These, now bargan priced homes (some would have to sell fast) combined with the super low interest rates makes for a hot real estate market. Which is why your father probably saw such a ramp up in sales. Also keep in mind that previous times in history the same effect would be seen when rates were lowered.

I think looking at real estate sales by itself can be a bit misleading. Since I would consider it a necessity rather than a luxury. If you want real economic gauges look at things like new car sales, consumer electronics.

I do agree that the economy is beginning to come out of its slump but merely because it inevatible(sp?). There are 4 stages to the economic cycle. Economic boom, slowdown, recession, and recovery. The only factor Bush & Co. can attempt to control is time. Which I believe he has done a poor job of.

Anyways back to the real estate market. Its a bad guage to the economy, and as BeachBum said housing prices are out of control. Its the same reason you are starting to see banking instutions offering 40 year fixed loans. This indicates to me that home prices are outpacing salaries (inflation anyone?). Also how many people do you know that have taken out ARM's (I know a whole lot). What happens when the rates start to rise again? I hope it doesen't happen because I would get the short end of the stick but I think there's a real estate bubble thats soon gonna burst, kinda like what people saw during the early 80's if not worse.

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link is broken.

Do you have another link?

[Trancelucent One]

Have you tried buying anything lately? The real estate Market has become so astronomically high that only the wealthy can afford to buy a home.

This is not true. My father is in real estate...interest rates are at an all time low and sales for real estate are up...very up. He sold more houses last year than the 3 previous years combined. If you ever watch the news, you would know that real estate is one of the least volatile markets right now and that sales are very high. Oh and he doesn't sell $million homes either, so it's not just the extremely wealthy that are buying homes. Maybe you should also consider where you live...sure real estate is always a hell of a lot higher in beach areas. That really isn't news though, most people who live on or near the beach are very wealthy. I think with a $60K income you would defiantely be able to find something, maybe just not on the beach.

Pam- I think your looking at things from the wrong angle. As of note, I recently bought my first house. So I am fully aware of how 'hot' the market is.

Interest rates are low due to the Federal Reserve cutting them to boost the economy. The chairman of the FR is Alan Greenspan who has been designated Chairman by Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush. When the economy starts to suffer they lower the rates to stir things up. You say interest rates are down as if they are a good thing. They are only down because our current economy is shit. You father may have sold the most homes ever but did you consider the whole picture?

My company has cut over 40,000 jobs since 9/11 (this is a very conservative figure. Most of those laid off were forced to sell their homes to downgrade to smaller cheaper homes. These, now bargan priced homes (some would have to sell fast) combined with the super low interest rates makes for a hot real estate market. Which is why your father probably saw such a ramp up in sales. Also keep in mind that previous times in history the same effect would be seen when rates were lowered.

I think looking at real estate sales by itself can be a bit misleading. Since I would consider it a necessity rather than a luxury. If you want real economic gauges look at things like new car sales, consumer electronics.

I do agree that the economy is beginning to come out of its slump but merely because it inevatible(sp?). There are 4 stages to the economic cycle. Economic boom, slowdown, recession, and recovery. The only factor Bush & Co. can attempt to control is time. Which I believe he has done a poor job of.

Anyways back to the real estate market. Its a bad guage to the economy, and as BeachBum said housing prices are out of control. Its the same reason you are starting to see banking instutions offering 40 year fixed loans. This indicates to me that home prices are outpacing salaries (inflation anyone?). Also how many people do you know that have taken out ARM's (I know a whole lot). What happens when the rates start to rise again? I hope it doesen't happen because I would get the short end of the stick but I think there's a real estate bubble thats soon gonna burst, kinda like what people saw during the early 80's if not worse.

I never said Real Estate was a gauge of how well the economy is. I was just pointing out that more people are buying homes now than they were a few years ago. I'm also aware of Alan Greenspan and interest rates. The point I was making is that the prices obviously aren't too high if people all over central florida are buying like crazy. My dad doesn't sell old houses either, 90% of his sales came from new homes that he helped design. These weren't huge homes either, average middle class homes. I just find it odd that new subdivisions are coming up everywhere in my hometown and there seems to be so much money pouring in. Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture because I haven't seen it first hand. Also, many companies had to lay off people after 9/11 because a lot of money was lost as a result of the terrorist attacks NOT the way the country was being ran.

[neoee]

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^^^
I've seen the same thing here in Washington in terms of new developments. I realize that you were pointing out out that people are buying houses like crazy, but my point was its not because the price is right but more out of necessity (people getting into smaller houses). Also in regards of new houses they are typically cheaper to buy that older homes, at least around here (no appliances, window coverings, cheap materials).

Below is an article I stumbled across today. Particularly of note is the following paragraph:

Earlier this month the U.S. Commerce Department reported a 0.7 percent dip in spending for June (a much steeper drop than the 0.1 percent drop economists were expecting), and the decline was attributed to the fact that job growth hasn't come back in yet, and personal income growth had been slight. That means residents of major metro areas such as New York or Chicago may rightfully grumble that they're paying boom economy prices for real estate in a non-booming economy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5696874/

Housing prices are continuing to rise and people are continuing to stretch using ARM's and 40 year mortgages and other means to get into homes.

[BeachBum]

Have you tried buying anything lately? The real estate Market has become so astronomically high that only the wealthy can afford to buy a home.

This is not true. My father is in real estate...interest rates are at an all time low and sales for real estate are up...very up. He sold more houses last year than the 3 previous years combined. If you ever watch the news, you would know that real estate is one of the least volatile markets right now and that sales are very high. Oh and he doesn't sell $million homes either, so it's not just the extremely wealthy that are buying homes. Maybe you should also consider where you live...sure real estate is always a hell of a lot higher in beach areas. That really isn't news though, most people who live on or near the beach are very wealthy. I think with a $60K income you would defiantely be able to find something, maybe just not on the beach.

Actually, we moved to our area three years ago. When we moved here we could have bought a nice home for $100,000. In the last three years, due to the fall in the interest rates, the Real Estate market has boomed so astronomically that pricing for a modest home is now starting at $300+. We went with a real estate broker last week and looked at 52 homes that where priced from 100 - 150,000. Every single one of these homes where in a bad section of town, built in 1960, and never remodeled. They were absolutely hideous. Trailers were starting at $100,000. And when I say trailer, that is what I meant, Not a modular style home the old medal ones. This is not the beach areas either. This is inland. 20-30 miles from the beach. Maybe bush has nothing to do with Real Estate market (that was said out of anger) but his whole ownership of America proproganda is absolutely ludicrous. Nothing more than political propoganda during election time. Make the middle class and the poor think he is gonna be able to give them their dream. In my opinion, IT ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN. He needs to create jobs and keep the government spending at home where it can do more good for the American people. Also lemme ask, where do you think the billions and billions of dollars that we are spending in Iraq comes from especially when we are in debt, the fed can't just go out and print more money (that would cause the value of the dollar to decrease) We have to borrow it. We borrow the money from countries like China and Japan. Hmmm kind of interesting, we have to finance a war that should have never happened. Don't get me wrong, I supported the War until it was known that we were mislead into it. Where are all the WMD? Hell we still can't track down one terroist although I have a funny feeling they will catch Osama right before election time. Maybe I am wrong, but it would be quiet interesting to me if that happens.

[xloh]

Personally, the debate is mute. Im from Mass. and even here the people think Kerry is a joke. My vote goes to Nader

[Balanc3]

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The link now works.. must have exceeded bandwidth before. Anyway this isn't funny at all, it's the truth and frightens the hell out of me. I don't know why this didn't cause more of a stir up than Sinclair. Maybe 'cause it was paid for by the Republican party. If you are voting for Kerry ONLY because you are anti-war and unhappy that President Bush went to war with Iraq... you better watch this video and then come up with a better excuse to vote against Bush.