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  • cosmo
    Gold Gabber
    • Jun 2004
    • 583

    Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

  • KinKyJ
    Platinum Poser
    • Jun 2004
    • 13438

    #2
    Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

    that guy should be shot by a scholar

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    • cosmo
      Gold Gabber
      • Jun 2004
      • 583

      #3
      Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

      Originally posted by KinKyJ
      that guy should be shot by a scholar

      For doing what? Getting caught while being questioned methodically? Anyone can be caught using the methods that top prosecutors use.

      It is known that he did not get convicted for leaking anyones name. It was Richard Armitage.

      The person that should be shot is Joe Wilson, because he lied in his NYTimes op-ed piece, as noted by the Butler report, and for using his stature to politically propogandize his lies to lash out at the Bush administration.

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      • toasty
        Sir Toastiness
        • Jun 2004
        • 6585

        #4
        Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

        Originally posted by cosmo
        For doing what? Getting caught while being questioned methodically? Anyone can be caught using the methods that top prosecutors use.

        It is known that he did not get convicted for leaking anyones name. It was Richard Armitage.

        The person that should be shot is Joe Wilson, because he lied in his NYTimes op-ed piece, as noted by the Butler report, and for using his stature to politically propogandize his lies to lash out at the Bush administration.

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        • toasty
          Sir Toastiness
          • Jun 2004
          • 6585

          #5
          Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

          looks like he's going to need their assistance on appeal, now:

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          • WaveSculptor
            Getting warmed up
            • Oct 2006
            • 84

            #6
            Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

            "No one has been charged with leaking classified information in the case, but a jury found Libby guilty of trying to deceive investigators and a grand jury as to what went on."

            I found it interesting that even the fall guy isn't taking the fall for what the trial was supposedly about.
            The Cosmos works by harmony of tensions...

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            • tiddles
              Encryption, Jr.
              • Jun 2004
              • 6861

              #7
              Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

              judith miller should be the one going back to jail - for her shit reporting on the lead up to the war.

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              • toasty
                Sir Toastiness
                • Jun 2004
                • 6585

                #8
                Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

                I think one of the best parts about this story is that the judge that's smacking Libby around is a W appointee. One of the most important factors in determining whether to suspend imposition of the sentence pending appeal is the likelihood of success on appeal, and he's made a point of saying that it isn't even a close call. That finding (that Libby has to go to jail pending appeal) will be on an abuse of discretion standard, leaving Libby with a really high bar to stay out of prison pending the appeal of his actual conviction.

                So you've got a Bush-appointed judge bitchslapping Libby on a routine basis, and folks are still defending the guy like he's done nothing wrong. Good stuff.

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                • cosmo
                  Gold Gabber
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 583

                  #9
                  Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

                  Originally posted by toasty
                  I think one of the best parts about this story is that the judge that's smacking Libby around is a W appointee.

                  So you've got a Bush-appointed judge bitchslapping Libby on a routine basis, and folks are still defending the guy like he's done nothing wrong. Good stuff.

                  That has no relevance whatsoever.

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                  • toasty
                    Sir Toastiness
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 6585

                    #10
                    Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense



                    No dice on Libby's appeal to stay out of jail pending appeal:

                    July 2, 2007
                    Appeals court rejects Libby?s bid for bail

                    WASHINGTON (CNN) ? A federal appeals court Monday rejected former White House aide Lewis ?Scooter? Libby?s request to remain free on bond while appealing his March conviction on perjury and obstruction of justice charges.

                    In an order handed down Monday, a three judge panel wrote Libby ?has not shown that the appeal raises a substantial question? that regular appeals court will consider when its next term begins in September.

                    A trial judge ordered Libby to serve 30 months in prison, to start when a location is determined by the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, and a date is decided for him to surrender himself at that location.

                    A court official told CNN Libby?s attorneys may still file for relief from the US Supreme Court, to try to keep Libby out of confinement pending his appeal.

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                    • toasty
                      Sir Toastiness
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 6585

                      #11
                      Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

                      and now Bush has commuted the sentence:

                      WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush has commuted the prison term of former White House aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who faced 30 months in prison after a federal court convicted him of perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators.

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                      • toasty
                        Sir Toastiness
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 6585

                        #12
                        Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

                        I guess there's really no downside to doing this from Bush's standpoint. On both sides of the spectrum, there are a handful of people, maybe 25%, that will support what their party leader is doing no matter what, and his approval ratings suggest that he doesn't have too many more supporters to lose. Why the hell not commute his sentence? I'm surprised he didn't give him an outright pardon, quite frankly.

                        Oh well. I have to confess, I was really looking forward to watching Libby being escorted into prison. Guess I'll have to be satisfied with the knowledge that Bush is perhaps the lamest lame duck in history, and the odds of him having any continued relevance for the remainder of his term is nil.

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                        • Huggie Smiles
                          Anyone have Styx livesets?
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 11836

                          #13
                          Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

                          either way its a fucking outrage!


                          this from cnn

                          "An outraged Joe Wilson, Plame's husband, spoke to CNN shortly after the ruling. The former ambassador had openly questioned the Bush administration's basis for invading Iraq.
                          He and his wife contend her name was leaked to the media as retribution for Wilson's comments.
                          "I have nothing to say to Scooter Libby," Wilson said. "I don't owe this administration. They owe my wife and my family an apology for having betrayed her. Scooter Libby is a traitor."
                          ....Freak in the morning, Freak in the evening, aint no other Freak like me thats breathing....




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                          • rubyraks
                            DUDERZ get a life!!!
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 5341

                            #14
                            Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

                            an outright pardon is the least Bush should've done for Libby's unending loyalty
                            "Work like you don't need the money.
                            Love like you've never been hurt.
                            Dance like nobody's watching.
                            Sing like nobody's listening.
                            Live like it's Heaven on Earth."

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                            • Lorn
                              Looking for a title!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 5826

                              #15
                              Re: Top Constitutional Scholars Line up for Libbys Defense

                              All President's do this...no one should be surprised or outraged.

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