IMPRESSED... and the American election

[Galapidate]

If Bush dumps Cheney and picks up Guliani that'll seal the deal for his exploitation of 9/11. I really hope Bush gets dumped because he's making a fool out of what was such a great country.

[devon]

Personally I don't think Bush even wants to be reelected. The first time was a fluke and now he's like fuck this this is too much work.

[neoee]

Giuliani would be great, but I don't think that Cheney is unpopular or has any mess behind him. Other than for health reasons, Bush should keep Cheney. Anyway, Kerry loses either way. Haliburton is a non-factor, actually a story created by the media.

I dont think Giuliani is going to get too many votes from the MS crowd (at least not the Twiloites). Its really sad how he went about putting Twilo out of business.

[Galapidate]

Giuliani would be great, but I don't think that Cheney is unpopular or has any mess behind him. Other than for health reasons, Bush should keep Cheney. Anyway, Kerry loses either way. Haliburton is a non-factor, actually a story created by the media.

I dont think Giuliani is going to get too many votes from the MS crowd (at least not the Twiloites). Its really sad how he went about putting Twilo out of business.

Yes, because the MS community has such a strong influence on elections

[mylexicon]

never like carter either.

there is no place for religion in american politics. we differ to much individually from each other to have just one religion with that type of influence.

Yeah but if you make statements like this; that means people who are
religious can't participate in politics......that creates a bit of a constitutional
problem.

[Galapidate]

never like carter either.

there is no place for religion in american politics. we differ to much individually from each other to have just one religion with that type of influence.

Yeah but if you make statements like this; that means people who are
religious can't participate in politics......that creates a bit of a constitutional
problem.

It's not that people who are religious can't participate, it's that they can't impose their beliefs on government legislation and require the rest of us to follow them.

[devon]

never like carter either.

there is no place for religion in american politics. we differ to much individually from each other to have just one religion with that type of influence.

Yeah but if you make statements like this; that means people who are
religious can't participate in politics......that creates a bit of a constitutional
problem.

It's not that people who are religious can't participate, it's that they can't impose their beliefs on government legislation and require the rest of us to follow them.

word!

[phishfood]

all presidents have been protestant (i think) except for jfk and he had to annouce to the american people that the pope does and will not control him, since he was catholic. kerry has said the same since he is also catholic as well.

how can bush not run with cheney again? doesnt cheney run everything anyways? bush should clean out the rest of the cabinet thou; ashcroft, rice, etc.

another rumor i heard is that powell is very opposed to the stance of the others about iraq. too bad there are shady aspects to his past and wife, otherwise he wouldnt have been a bad choice for prez.

[mixu]

all presidents have been protestant (i think) except for jfk and he had to annouce to the american people that the pope does and will not control him, since he was catholic. kerry has said the same since he is also catholic as well.

how can bush not run with cheney again? doesnt cheney run everything anyways? bush should clean out the rest of the cabinet thou; ashcroft, rice, etc.

another rumor i heard is that powell is very opposed to the stance of the others about iraq. too bad there are shady aspects to his past and wife, otherwise he wouldnt have been a bad choice for prez.

Yeah, Cheney's pulling the strings on the puppet. And Powell is the only sane head in the administration, therefore he disagrees with them and they think he's liability.

[devon]

all presidents have been protestant (i think) except for jfk and he had to annouce to the american people that the pope does and will not control him, since he was catholic. kerry has said the same since he is also catholic as well.

how can bush not run with cheney again? doesnt cheney run everything anyways? bush should clean out the rest of the cabinet thou; ashcroft, rice, etc.

another rumor i heard is that powell is very opposed to the stance of the others about iraq. too bad there are shady aspects to his past and wife, otherwise he wouldnt have been a bad choice for prez.

im not saying you can't be religious to be president. im saying bush uses his religion in political decisions more then any other president that i know of. it's real scary when you think about it.

cheney is running again, that guiliani rumor is just crap.

[mylexicon]

It's not that people who are religious can't participate, it's that they can't impose their beliefs on government legislation and require the rest of us to follow them.

Impossible. Religion is nothing more than a set of morals, the spiritual aspect varies
from person to person. The only reson people have been taught to fear it is
because religions are notoriously inflexible. Inflexiblity and ideology over
pragmatism has a tendency to scare the shit out of most westernized
nations because many people believe no progress can be made by observing
the methods of the past.

I believe the same thing about imposing one's belief on other people too.
People legislate away hunting, they legislate away firearm ownership,
and they tax me extra hard for driving a vehicle that gets relatively poor gas
milage; and the people who do these things aren't even "religious". No matter
what ideology you subscribe to, you believe in controlling other people, unless
you are an anarchist.

[Galapidate]

I believe the same thing about imposing one's belief on other people too.
People legislate away hunting, they legislate away firearm ownership,
and they tax me extra hard for driving a vehicle that gets relatively poor gas
milage; and the people who do these things aren't even "religious". No matter
what ideology you subscribe to, you believe in controlling other people, unless
you are an anarchist.

Well, I was talking about legislation that is religion-based or has something to do with religion (i.e. school prayer, gay marriage, abortion, etc.). That kind of stuff should not be decided by religion in the United States, but rather by our democratic form of government. Unfortunately these days, certain leaders use their religious beliefs in these matters, hence why separation of church and state doesn't last long.