Situation in.................................. Iraq

[Galapidate]

I wanna see what happens June 30 when they turn over power...

[razvan]

[neoee]

15 more days till the $hit really starts to hit the fan...

(or gets delayed, take your pick)

Yeah no kidding. They blew up their first president... and you still think they want a democracy?

[superdave]

situation in Iraq

Who cares what happens in Iraq?

There aren't any weapons of mass destruction there. That's why we went there in the first place and we found out that there wasn't any, so mission accomplished.

[Galapidate]

Re: situation in Iraq

Who cares what happens in Iraq?

There aren't any weapons of mass destruction there. That's why we went there in the first place and we found out that there wasn't any, so mission accomplished.

If it were only that simple

[mylexicon]

15 more days till the $hit really starts to hit the fan...

(or gets delayed, take your pick)

Yeah no kidding. They blew up their first president... and you still think they want a democracy?

Please! Abraham Lincoln and JFK were both assassinated.......yet most of us
still want democracy. That's the problem....regular Iraqi citizens don't know
how to get involved....they are used to maintaining a low profile to avoid
Baathists and Saddam. They still fear him and his people even after they are
dead or captured. Iraqis show up all the time to protest our troops because
they know they won't leave in a body bag. They never start picketing around
terrorists because they'd end up dead!!!! And the media just dumbs this
revalation down into one simple doctrine: "the iraqis hate us and we have the
one-sided, unsupported anecdotal evidence to prove it!.....and we like Michael Moore"

Why people only listen to the ramblings of politicians and idiotic media
moguls is beyond me. If you want true unbaised opinions on the subject
read what corporate officers have to say. They are split 50/50 and most of them
have intelligent relatively non-political things to say.

[brakada]

Please! Abraham Lincoln and JFK were both assassinated.......yet most of us
still want democracy. That's the problem....regular Iraqi citizens don't know
how to get involved....they are used to maintaining a low profile to avoid
Baathists and Saddam. They still fear him and his people even after they are dead or captured. Iraqis show up all the time to protest our troops because they know they won't leave in a body bag. They never start picketing around
terrorists because they'd end up dead!!!!

Although I agree, that Iraqis don't really know how to get involved in democracy (nor they are really encouraged or allowed to invlove), but I think most of them have already put fear of Saddam behind them. I mean there is no chance, that Sadam or the Baathist could get back to (absolute) power.

[NokturnaL]

if i was in charge, the middle east would be a radioactive crater as of 12.9.01
no more situation there

right on man..

[mylexicon]

but I think most of [the Iraqis] have already put fear of Saddam behind them. I mean there is no chance, that Sadam or the Baathist could get back to (absolute) power.

Half right. There is no chance Saddam will ever return to power. He is too old
and their are too many people who want to rule Iraq.

However, the Baathists are far from eliminated. There are none in Iraq now
but it is believed that many vanished by escaping to the surrounding regions
before the war.

[thespian]

Hold your horses tiddles... The whole middle east is not your enemy.
But now I can understand how high some of the Americans get with the power of nukes. Well done m8. I really hope u will be US President one day.

[brakada]

Half right. There is no chance Saddam will ever return to power. He is too old
and their are too many people who want to rule Iraq.

However, the Baathists are far from eliminated. There are none in Iraq now
but it is believed that many vanished by escaping to the surrounding regions
before the war.

Well, there are a lot of Baathists still in Iraq. Although we have heard in the past that the entire Baath party supports Iraq, this was not the case. I read in an interview with a guy from Iraq (I think he was a Kurd, thus his opinion is probably not that biased), thar most of the Baathists still in Iraq were not Sadam supporters and are trying to make the Baath party legal again and do not watn to be associated Sadam. He also mentioned that if that would happen, the problem would arise, how to tell apart Sadam's followers from those who defied him. So, I think that Sadam's followers are without any chance of getting back to power. The thing I am worried about though is placing of Sadam's people in charge of newly founded Iraq security forces, which is a lot more worrying IMHO.

[LobsterClan]

Re: Situation in.................................. Iraq

Surprising that besides the wasted post at the end, no one here has any thoughts about Iraq.

With recent information claiming the situation is only getting worse, and saying the possibility of civil war being likely-- I would think more people would be discussing it. It's really a shame that such a huge war has practically faded from view-- over 1,000 of our boys are dead, and little to no progress has been made lately. Think it's time to do something differently there.

[Balanc3]

I wanna see what happens June 30 when they turn over power...

13 people died.

Your all right we should just pull the hell out and quit losing soldiers. Just let them all fight, its what they want... civil war. Shiite vs. Kurd vs. Sunni, already been done. They're just waiting for the big fight, out on the streets. If it were all that easy. Somebody has to govern them through their first independant ellection. Iraq must be rebuilt, people must be defended, and oil protected. And spread the wealth around. Unfornately it comes at the cost of lives... american and iraqi. And fuck how can you continue to play out the bs Vietnam reference, were not even close to those numbers. Why not compare to another failure such as the Korean War. It just doesnt happen.

Militants behead three Iraqi kurds:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040919/D856VE883.html

[sebas_guti82]

no more unfair war

[LobsterClan]

Re: Situation in.................................. Iraq

Kinda funny how the picture the White House paints of Iraq is all sunshine and roses, with Donald Rumsfeld rating the overall effort a B+.

"He [Rumsfeld] gave the administration and the coalition a "B-plus" for managing Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein in terms of interaction between the new government and U.S. forces.
"If I had to grade it so far, I'd probably give it a B-plus, pretty good, and maybe an A in interaction and maybe a B in outcome," Mr. Rumsfeld said. "But it's a tough business."
from http://washingtontimes.com/national/...3001-6570r.htm


Certainly it isn't quite a Vietnam situation yet, after all it's only been a year and a half so far-- but at this point there's little reason to believe things would not escalate to a Vietnam or worse level.