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Yeah man. I'm British and I have no fear in saying Scotland is shit. 
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Funny how he never mentions the reasons why he thinks Michael Moore hates America.Originally posted by djstevendellis
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looking forward to this movie. hopefully it doesnt fall flat at the end like bowling did.
and of course he is going to preach his own side to the story. the point is that this, and the rest of his movies, are not suppose to be taken as the absolute truth but to make you think about the subject at hand. agree or disagree but open up your mind and find out.Comment
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Agreed. It's amazing how far some people will go to stop others even watching a movie or hearing a different opinion.Originally posted by phishfood
The thing is that Moore is going to bring up facts and issues that MOST AMERICANS ARE COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF and that's why they're so upset about it.
If Moore was making a fictitious movie with no truth in it, they wouldn't need to try to discredit him to the extent they're doing now.Comment
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^ I definitely agree. A LOT of Americans want to keep the "ignorance is bliss" view of our government. Thank god someone like Moore is trying to break that mentality.
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typical republicanOriginally posted by deliriousFunny how he never mentions the reasons why he thinks Michael Moore hates America.Originally posted by djstevendellisi really wish the floor would stop moving!Comment
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First. Ignorance is bliss. Second, nobody in America thinks our government is perfect. I mean come on. Most do recognize that its the best form of democracy in existence, or on this planet any way.Originally posted by Galapidate
So what are you suggesting exactly?? Moore is a frickin' hypocritical greedy, glutinous bastard that claims to be in this all for the little guy and yet he charges $30,000+ to speak for 2 hours at a university. So our tax dollars are overpaying this scum bad to bring up issues about problems our country has, which most people already know about.
He doesn't do a damn thing to try and address these problems. He just states the obvious and then makes it sound worse then it really is. He never brought up that Clinton ignored al Quada for 8 years, only that Bush did it for 8 months. U don't see the hypocricy there??
If he actually addressed these problems and gave solutions, that would be one thing. As it stands, He's a frickin moron."The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." - Tacitus (55-117 A.D.)
"That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves."
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Firstly, I find with films it's good to actually watch the film before giving an opinion of it. When we listen to Mozart or listen to a set by Sasha, are we listening to the music they're making, or are we trying to critisise and endlessly analyse their lifestyle? It doesn't make sense.Originally posted by Civic_Zen
Personally, I think that if Moore get a single new person to vote, that'll be good in itself. But again, maybe you should watch the movie before you go into attack mode!
Well, in the US, voter apathy is a big problem. He's asking people to vote. That a "damn thing". He also gives loads of money to charities but we'll ignore that for now.Originally posted by Civic_Zen
Umm...how can you be "ignoring Al Queda" while firing missiles into Afganhistan and giving speeches on the danger of Osama bin Laden?Originally posted by Civic_Zen
When Bush listed his adminsitration's priorities in early 2001, terrorism wasn't even on the list! (cites available)
He's a filmmaker, dude. Why does he have to address and solve all these issues? Why can't he just make films, like any other filmmaker?Originally posted by Civic_ZenComment
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I HAVE already seen this movie, but I'm not going back into that. Besides, its not like I sat there and watched every minute of it.
I think your a bit delirious there, delirious :wink:
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." - Tacitus (55-117 A.D.)
"That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves."
- Thomas JeffersonComment
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LOL... ok...critisise the movie then. I didn't see people analysing Quentin Tarrintino when Kill Bill. Why does Michael Moore have to be held to a much higher standard than other filmmakersOriginally posted by Civic_ZenI HAVE already seen this movie, but I'm not going back into that. Besides, its not like I sat there and watched every minute of it.
I think your a bit delirious there, delirious :wink:
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Because he's making accusations, and blatant ones at that, that other filmmakers aren't!Originally posted by deliriousLOL... ok...critisise the movie then. I didn't see people analysing Quentin Tarrintino when Kill Bill came out... Why does Michael Moore have to be held to a much higher standard than other filmmakersOriginally posted by Civic_ZenI HAVE already seen this movie, but I'm not going back into that. Besides, its not like I sat there and watched every minute of it.
I think your a bit delirious there, delirious :wink: [/u]http://www.myspace.com/mjdubmusic
You can't have manslaughter without laughter.
"Son," he said without preamble, "never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."Comment
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In Passion of Christ, Mel Gibson made an accusation that the Jews killed Jesus. The Anti-Defamation League objected to it but attacked the movies accuracy., not Mel Gibson himself. Why, in the case of Farenheight 9/11, are people attacking Michael Moore instead of the film? What untrue accusations does it make?Originally posted by MJDubBecause he's making accusations, and blatant ones at that, that other filmmakers aren't!Originally posted by deliriousLOL... ok...critisise the movie then. I didn't see people analysing Quentin Tarrintino when Kill Bill came out... Why does Michael Moore have to be held to a much higher standard than other filmmakersOriginally posted by Civic_ZenI HAVE already seen this movie, but I'm not going back into that. Besides, its not like I sat there and watched every minute of it.
I think your a bit delirious there, delirious :wink: [/u]Comment
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Are you being serious?Originally posted by deliriousLOL... ok...critisise the movie then. I didn't see people analysing Quentin Tarrintino when Kill Bill. Why does Michael Moore have to be held to a much higher standard than other filmmakersOriginally posted by Civic_ZenI HAVE already seen this movie, but I'm not going back into that. Besides, its not like I sat there and watched every minute of it.
I think your a bit delirious there, delirious :wink:
I think you've got to understand that Kill Bill is a fictitious Film. Moore's 'documentary', on the other hand, is apparently based upon fact. Also, apparently, Moore's documentary dishes out some rather large accusations. I haven't seen it as yet, and I'm going to be VERY sceptical about the whole thing.Comment
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I wish people would just shut the fuck up about Moore and the whole half-truths thing. Media tells us a bunch of lies and half-truths all the time, at least his movie has some purpose to it (WAKE UP AMERICA!) Comment
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