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  • djsethnichols
    Addiction started
    • Jun 2004
    • 297

    #16
    Re: First decks

    No doubt. I wasn't saying you have to be upfront to be 'good'. I was more just referring to the thing that sparked the acceptance of the digital medium (whereas before everyone was playing only vinyl, for the most part). It took a headliner DJ (like Sasha) playing the digital format before the commoner DJ would come to accept playing digital themselves. My point is that they were influenced to play digital by the headliners, but the headliners are playing digital because it is upfront and easier than spending $80 to press a dubplate of a new track, not because they can get it on beatport. The commoner DJ doesn't have access to this upfront material, so why digital? DJs have tossed one thing entirely for a new thing instead of introducing it and making a part of what was already firmly established and traditional.
    Digital is good for lots of things, as mentioned, getting old out of print stuff in full clean versions and not hacks off of p2p's. Playing classic vinyl that should be kept in home safety. Playing your own produced tracks. Good for having a bunch of stuff to take along with to a gig just to have in case you need to fill in a blank here or there (like those filler tracks that aren't worth the price of a vinyl). Good for the young starting labels that want to get their music out without much overhead out the gate. But to think of digital as the primary medium of choice is a far reach for me. It's a step down in the ways of quality, aesthetics, and fun...and I have high standards.
    Record labels and producers spend so much time and money to make tracks sound perfect, down to the very smallest sound. So why then would we take that high quality sound and play it via sub quality sounding means? It's degrading of the true sound that was meant to be heard.
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    • Steve Graham
      DJ Jelly
      • Jun 2004
      • 12887

      #17
      Re: First decks

      vinyl is great, and it is where most of us started.. but there is something to be said about being able to make your own edits of mp3/wav tracks!
      chopping out long pointless breakdowns, vocals, rearranging tracks.. cant do that with vinyl ;-)

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      • BureOne
        Are you Kidding me??
        • Jun 2004
        • 3285

        #18
        Re: First decks

        Would one really be able to tell the difference at a club when an mp3 file is being played and a vinyl is being played,.. all the while dancing, drinking and talking..? I doubt it.

        Technology is constantly being born like every 5 months.. it was just easier for the producer/label to send their material directly to the big dj's because of it.

        Im all for vinyl and every so often still purchase them, but I've found a new horizon with digital files.. it just expands your capability further imo, wether it be "upfront" or a lable's back catalogue.

        I really dont think the "commoner dj" has gotten into cdj's/files because they think they too can be upfront like Sasha lol, that's just ridiculous.. People are getting into it becasue the technology is just there to try out period.

        If the commoner dj is purchasing all this upfornt technology stuff to be something they're not, then they're getting into it for the wrong reason imo.

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        • lilsensa
          DUDERZ get a life!!!
          • Jun 2004
          • 6675

          #19
          Re: First decks

          Originally posted by Steve Graham
          chopping out long pointless breakdowns, vocals, rearranging tracks.. cant do that with vinyl ;-)
          Who plays music with long breakdowns these days??
          RIP ~ Steve James







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          • djsethnichols
            Addiction started
            • Jun 2004
            • 297

            #20
            Re: First decks

            Originally posted by BureOne
            Would one really be able to tell the difference at a club when an mp3 file is being played and a vinyl is being played,.. all the while dancing, drinking and talking..? I doubt it.
            I wouldn't make a deal of it if I didn't think it were noticeable.
            It most definitely is. Even more so on big club systems - the imperfections are amplified greater. Smacky highs and flat bass, the sacrifice of the digital sound. Not to mention the poorly mastered digital files going around the web (many of which are sold on websites) which make things even worse.

            Check out this read on the digital sound :
            Article Here
            https://t.me/pump_upp

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            • Ryan0751
              Fresh Peossy
              • Jun 2007
              • 27

              #21
              Re: First decks

              Step 1: Buy used 1200's, preferably M3D's or MK5's (no pitch click). So many people are "dumping" their 1200's for digital, that there are quite a few out there. By them locally (not ebay), check craigslist. That way you can try them out in person.

              Step 2: Buy Torq (or Traktor Scratch, SSL if you have the cash).

              Step 3: Enjoy the best of both worlds and practice a lot.

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