anyone see the kid from the john kerry event yet?

[FM]

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They even warned him that they would taser him if he didn't stop resisting and he continued to fight with the cops.

I'm glad I waited a bit to see what else would come of this. Sounds like the kid was doing it for a publicity stunt and got more then he bargained for. If so, the school ought to kick him out for being a jackass...and the rest of the "protesters" after the fact are gonna look dumb as shit. But then again he can stay and they'll just take his money

Despite that, when these videos are shown and cases are heard, why the fuck is it that when the police say they are going to taser someone if they keep it up, they still act like a complete dumb ass like they think they are NOT going to get tasered...I don't think out of the relative few officers (as a whole) that are allowed to carry one of these things that they are going to act high and mighty and use that as an idle threat...

[DIDI]

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Actually, right now I think you don't get it.

But ok...maybe I really don't get it, so enlighten me. What would you have preferred the cops do in that situation?

That's the wrong question. My bleeding heart [proud of that btw.] goes out to the people that are so desensitized that they argue that the right thing for police to do is tazer some loudmouth fuckwit. And that people should behave better because they know police will do nasty things to them?? Thankfully that's not an option here, the police don't have tazers.

We have the same laws about resisting arrest and it's the law that police come up with when they can't think of anything else

Look at the footage, at no time was he a physical threat to anyone, he didn't try to hit anyone, he only tried to pull away . This makes him a total idiot but no danger. When they tazered him he was face down on the floor , five cops on top of him, one hand handcuffed and he was making it hard for them to handcuff the other. If five cops couldn't grab one hand they shouldn't be cops!! It looks far more like expediency than necessity!! and when your police force uses a tazer as an expedient measure, that's scary.

I'm also very glad that when incidences of "over reaction" from our police happen, people in this country do protest about it.!!

The most stupid thing about all this is that the guy got exactly what he wanted!!! Heaps and heaps of attention!! He knows that he can recover from a tazer so that's not as big a threat for the next time he wants some attention, but I guess they can always shoot him!

[floridaorange]

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idiot

[vinnie97]

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Yup, force (namely, the tazer) used was excessive and unnecessary. There are pressure points to utilize to get a suspect to comply as far as handcuffs go.

[AndyH]

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Im sorry but the 5 pigs did not need to use the tazer full stop. Even on programs like worlds wildest police chases etc where the suspect (often a serious crim) has driven like a total maniac and endanged many peoples lives, the police do not feel the need to taz them, they just bundle them and cuff their hands behind their back. Problem sorted. Now if 5 of them cant even manage that with one scrawny college kid and feel the need to put 1000s of volts through him, then there is something seriously wrong. Either that or they are just sad bored campus cops or something and just wanted some action.

Either way it was bang out of order even if he was a twat. At the end of the day
all he did was speak/shout out of line, its not like he endangered or attacked anyone (and no, the cops were never in any danger).

[tiddles]

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these were university cops though. they are all huge pussies...i'm starting to side with the police as i learn more about what happened

[Morgan]

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Betty Perry is charged with resisting arrest and failing to maintain her landscaping, both misdemeanors.

Saw this on CNN, resisting arrest in Utah is a misdemeanor, so that guy was Tazered for a misdemeanor.

[Steve Graham]

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I dont think that it was excessive that he was removed coz he wasnt having a balanced debate, he was ranting. Even if Kerry was saying he wants to answer the question its not the way to do things in that environment.

However, the tazer was totally unecessary imo.

V funny though..

I'm thinking this is the main part of the debate.. fine, arrest him or whatever.. the taser was excessive

[shosh]

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^ whether he complied or not is a different story. thats what the charge is for. they clearly had him under control, on the floor, with their knees on him and his arms behind his back. so the taser was useless as he was already where they needed him. fucking univ pigs that want to show they are not big pussies...

[hansh20]

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excessive means too much, so im with you, the tazer was way too much for this kid, i dont know how you can tell this is right, it is obviously not right, i understand that a cop has to protect himself against any kind of danger, but one thing is protecting himself (im talking about moderate use of force) and the other one is beating a college kid's ass who is not dangerous at all, and i can asure he wasnt dangerous because he had to pass all the security inspections just before entering the forum, so in the same way they have the right to use the force, they have the obligation of thinking about it before using it too.

[asdf_admin]

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The guy was resisting arrest with a former/possible presidential candidate. He got what he deserved.

In today's time, you just never know.

[clintlove]

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[Localizer]

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the best part is while they're fighting with the guy and tasing him right there in the aisle you can hear Kerry keep droning on over the PA in the background



I disagree. Every time something like this happens I always hear this chorus of "hey the MAN'S trying to get him down! Fight the power!" Actually, police were justified in what they did and the kid had it coming.

It's so cute when these college age morons think that they're Paul Revere or something and that the Constitution makes them invincible. Maybe homeboy should get out of the bong haze long enough to learn that:

1. The First Amendment ONLY says "CONGRESS shall make no law" abridging your freedom of speech, NOT that you can unilaterally take control of a public or private forum and subject people to any form of inappropriate personal behavior or speech without censure.

2. "Police harrassment" does NOT constitute forcibly resisting arrest for several minutes. When the police have made the choice to exercise restraint on you, it doesn't matter what the issue at hand is and how you feel about your justification. Police have the duty and right to get physical with you at that point if you fight them. Unless you want that to happen, you shut the fuck up and walk out quietly.



Yes, it does take 5 cops to subdue a fucking kid when the kid is forcibly resisting arrest and they're trying to contain him in as much of a restrained manner as they can so that neither you nor anyone else nor the kid himself really gets harmed. Keep in mind that when the cops start, they don't know how much this little pissant is going to resist them anyways. It would be easy for a big cop to come and clock the fucker and drag him out, but the cops aren't that stupid - they know that every single thing they do will be scrutinized to the extreme and have potential personal legal consequences.

I concur - reminds of that spoiled little bitch from UCLA that got tazed.

[threehills]

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One thing that really bothers me in this discussion are those who are saying "He was just trying to ask a question". If he was just trying to ask a question, a question he was interested in knowing the answer to, don't you think he would have told the person to film Kerry and not himself? Clearly, by instructing the filmer to film himself and not kerry, he had other intentions than just "asking a question".

As to the use of force, WE DONT" KNOW if the cops were justified to use the tazer or not. YES, we can see that he was on the ground and that cops were around him...but we can't see everything else. Maybe he had his hand wrapped around the female cops hair and was pulling it, maybe he was grabbing the nuts of one of the cops. As a former cop myself, this has happened to me. just because he is on the ground does not mean the "fight" is over by any instances. You do not relax until he is fully handcuffed and secured.

I am not saying whether or not he deserved to be tazed, but neither can you as you don't know what was going on inside the huddle.

[DIDI]

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^^^ Don't know which one you watched but it was quite clear in the one I saw! No hair and no nuts. Perhaps you could change the "WE don't know" to "I don't know!!."