God

[rainman]

Re: God

Let's us.......
Pray

dear heavenly father, we would like to thank you for this thread, so that we may learn what other people's philosophies are and enjoy mild debate on your existence. . .

[sammwalk]

Re: God

I respect your right to your opinions, but it seems that what you say is 100% emotive and has zero basis as even an attempted logical argument-based discussion. As such, there isn't really anything to...discuss

right on. so how to argue against illogic?

Well its more of explaining trignometry to someone learning subtraction...there isnt anything to discuss...the signs and proofs are there,,, in physics and chemistry,
its not about just beleiving its more of a connection that you feel once you start it, things get clearer and makes more sense signs become more obvious,,,in the beggining or end its a choice that everyone has to make and is responsible for it...so just chill to the next episode...

spooky language here. signs and proofs of what? connection to what? start what? what things? what signs? how do they become obvious? the beginning or end of what? choice between what things? empty spooky language.

I think some of the points people need to say why you should beleive, even if you dont see signs or "proof" is basically faith. Without faith, obviously you wont beleive.

What do non-beleivers think about Miracles? Call it something else, what do you think of someone having cancer and then the cancer dissapearing? What is that if not a miracle? How can one explain it scientifically?.. just luck?

Or are all "miracle stories" simply bogus?

miracles don't make any sense from a theist or non-theist perspective. it's a wrong concept.

from the non-theist perspective, a miracle can simply be described as an unexpected fortunate turn of events. there are things that happen sometimes that we can't explain or predict. let's just leave it at that.

from the theist perspective, a miracle is an intervention of God. but for God to perform a miracle would require that somewhere God's plan went astray (or was wrong to begin with) and God has to set it right. but religions hold that God is infallible, so this is not possible. or, if God is everywhere, in and around everything, all-existing, all-knowing, and all-creating, there is no room for miracles.

if, instead, we say that miracles are demonstrations of God's power and are indeed part of his divine plan, then they are not in fact true miracles. furthermore, if God indeed be the all-powerful being that we describe it as, God would have no need to prove its existence to anyone through spectacle, but as simple divine revelation.

[AntonyM]

Re: God

Some will say the basic ideas stemming from religious
philosophical backgrounds are the foundations for civilization,
whether you believe in a god or gods, almost wrote dogs, at least
you are free to choose in our virtual universe, another question
to be posed does god or gods exist in cyberspace?

[picklemonkey]

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[rainman]

Re: God

^^ wow! that pretty much sums it up. good find.

[sammwalk]

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^^awesome