Bush on Iran

[stuntman]

I have a very good feeling Iran is next - even Kerry will go to war with Iran.

[PhAntoM MeNaCe]

dave I agree with your comments 100%, very well spoken. Morgan, you should not be scared by Bushs pro defense policies that save all our asses even when we dont hear about it. (Fact: we need to be right 100% of the time, terrorists need to be right once) and YOUR saying these 'suspect strategies and crazy ideas'....THREATEN US??? hahahahah Man your sardonic and breviloquent comments make me think you have more of a thunder-pussy than a set of balls. What should 'scare' you is your naive and mendacious conspiracy theories, your isolating yourself pal.

Hos, if you put a gun in the hand of a police officer and another in the hand of a convicted murderer, hmmmm which one you going to trust with the gun??? Your saying there should not be 'different standards' for certain governments or regimes that have nuclear capabilities???!Your pathetic.

[neoee]

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Even if Iran has enough oil...most oil producing countries see more in exporting it for foreign currency. That is a fact. Even if Iran is building nuclear weapons, it's rather because they feel threatened, thus for defensive reasons, not offensive. Do you think it's strange they've been feeling treatened by either Israel or the US the past few decades? I don't.

I completely agree with you Yao. Maybe some should remember that the US is the only country to have ever dropped a nuke on another country.

I think its going to come down to everyone being armed before we can start making progress and having discussions about disarming.

[LV-8]

... even Kerry will go to war with Iran.

No he wouldn't, wait, yes he would, no wait no he wouldn't, wait I think he would. :wink:

[Jibgolly]

i'm all for arming myself. legally that is.
my dad has been carrying a gun on his hip for years.
cant think of any other way to feel much more safe.

[PhAntoM MeNaCe]

Jib your right...something about having a pistol strapped to your waist gives you a sense of security. 'go ahead...make my day' hahahah clint eastwood was the man!!

[Morgan]

Jib your right...something about having a pistol strapped to your waist gives you a sense of security. 'go ahead...make my day' hahahah clint eastwood was the man!!

If you seroiusly think that in the western world you need, for your own security to carry a gun on your hip then you are a fool.

In the UK during the irish troubles, the UK didn?t see fit to introduce a PATRIOT act, we have some tough laws relating to homeland security but in the UK it is still illeagal to spy on normal people, unlike the USA.

Do you honestly believe that it is safer for an American in the middle east today than it was 4 years ago? Of course not, this stupid war has just incouraged any person with a greviance agaist the west to form a little terroist cell and start kiddnapping, killing and bombing.

Let me tell you a little story, i took a weeks anti terriost course, we were trained by a specialist Army unit just back from ireland. i got talking to the head guys, and they were very certain that the only way to solve the terrorist threat was to sit the people down and talk a resolution. They were very clear on this point, you cannot fight terror with force, ulimately it is self defeating.

If a specialist terror unit tells me this after losing a good few people to terror then i believe them.

Ask yourself why terrorists hate the west. Then ask yourself has there ever been a sucessful instance when the USA has forced a regime change on country?

Amercia should have learnt from it?s past mistakes, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, Chile, Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, Brazil, Iraq (again), Vietnam the list goes on.
Who the fuck has given you the right to undermind/overthrow DEMOCRATAITLY elected goverments justg because that goverment does not fit in with the US way of thinking.

Don?t even think you can justify an Iraqi invastion as saving the poor repressed people, bullshit. look at Saudi Arabia, becasue they have a very large amount of oil they are allowed to keep there Dictactorship, repress there people, give no rights to their women, cut people hands & heads off. FFS do you really think any of the 911 hijackers were Iraqi.

But then i guess the Iraqi ambassitor wasn?t drinking and smoking on the balcony with POTUS a few days after, maybe if he was Iraq would still be a soverign state.

[Hos]

do you think the US will bomb the crap out of Monaco for being a monarchy?

[brakada]

Morgan, you should not be scared by Bushs pro defense policies that save all our asses even when we dont hear about it. (Fact: we need to be right 100% of the time, terrorists need to be right once) and YOUR saying these 'suspect strategies and crazy ideas'....THREATEN US??? hahahahah Man your sardonic and breviloquent comments make me think you have more of a thunder-pussy than a set of balls. What should 'scare' you is your naive and mendacious conspiracy theories, your isolating yourself pal.

The problem here is that noone can be right 100% (except in theory) and I believe that the US made just too many "mistakes" to remain trustworthyand lost a lot of hteir credibility. For example why Iraq had to be attacked immediately, when the mission to Afganisthan was far from complete (the circumstances in Afganisthan have still not settled down yet). However, I am still amazed how Americans willingly watch billions of their money being spent on wars outside their countries, which were not neccessary at all... True, Sadam was removed from power, but the conditions in Iraq are still very far from a free, democratic country, that would respect civil rights...

Hos, if you put a gun in the hand of a police officer and another in the hand of a convicted murderer, hmmmm which one you going to trust with the gun??? Your saying there should not be 'different standards' for certain governments or regimes that have nuclear capabilities???!Your pathetic.

But what if the police officer becomes corrupted? And as it has been said, it was only the US who ever used the nukes...

[Yao]

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I think Morgan is right about terrorism being fought with force: it's like chopping a hydra's head off while a new one is already trying to attack you.

But sometimes reason doesn't do the trick: Muslim fundamentalists won't listen, won't negociate. It's always the moderate Muslims, but they have little influence on the hardliners. That frightens me: what if talking doesn't help anymore?

[definiteform]

We take Pete's car, we drive over to mum's, we go in, take care of Phillip - "I'm so sorry Phillip". - then we grab mum, we go over to Liz's place, hole up, have a cup of tea and wait for this whole thing to blow over. =D

[Yao]

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Good idea

[camposja]

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The US would avoid so much trouble if they would be at peace with korea china the middle east and the rest of the world for that matter

they ve been antagonizing everyone for the past couple of years

rouge nation

[santo26]

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That will take defenatly to the next Irack , Bush want it, at least is what I think,

[rewing3]

Since when is it the US's job to be the big brother of the world. I agree with Jib I think if we would take care of our own problems and not worry about what is going on in the rest of the world. We would not be in this mess. War is not the answer.