Bush Kerry Debate

[dalex]

Re: Bush Kerry Debate

Kerry definitely dominated this debate. He's been a let-down to me for a long time, but watching him made me feel for the first time (except for the DNC) that he's someone I could vote for, rather than just voting against Bush. He actually brought some passion (albeit not on a Dean/Kucinich scale) and was concise and confident. The President, on the other hand, seemed to be shrinking. He was downright incoherent at times. It's a shame that the strongest criticism he could come up with of Kerry is that Kerry criticized him. How can you be up for re-election and not expect your policies and decisions to be criticized? Perhaps there are people out there that forget that we live in a democracy and not the former Soviet Union, that being able to freely criticize a sitting president who is up for re-election is part of the very foundation of our country, and that is who this criticism was aimed at. To me, it's just consistent with this administration's Orwellian attempt to silence dissent.

[Steve Graham]

How many times did Kerry just go rambling on about what he wanted to say, which was for the most part, a bunch of NOTHING, and avoid the actual question? I am not on either side as far as Bush v Kerry. I watched as an unbiased, open minded viewer. Bush stumbled quite a bit, but I thought made stronger points. Kerry, just stood there with a stupid smirk, yammering away about his "plans".. and when even asked for specifics, couldnt do anything but go on about a topic he had already discussed.
As far as speech writers.. if they had prepared speeches, it wouldnt be a debate.. right? Didnt the moderator in the opening say he wrote the ?'s and neither person had seen them prior to the debate?
Also, if they had the answers prepared there would have been a lot les stumbling for words.
Again, I am in no way into politics, so these comments, as I mentioned before, are just from my observations

[AfterHours]

Some might say that I shouldn't be talking about this since he will not be my president, but I believe that the next US president will be once again the world's president, and deffinetly after this debate I don't think there is a good one and a bad one.. I believe that both have almost nothing possitive to offer... this is a "not that bad" election... and IMO Kerry is not as bad as Bush... speaking from a Mexican point of view we rather have a (US) president who can speak by himself and make his own oppinions than a monkey who reads only the cards handed to him by his staff.. Bush has the only credit of gathering the whole world for one reason ... being against him....

Peace

[skahound]

How many times did Kerry just go rambling on about what he wanted to say, which was for the most part, a bunch of NOTHING, and avoid the actual question?

Not very many.

Bush stumbled quite a bit, but I thought made stronger points.

You remember any of them? I was sitting watching the same debate, so I think, but I must've had an OBE when he made them

Kerry, just stood there with a stupid smirk,

And nothing about Bush's smirks which were blatantly directed at Sen. Kerry? Bush displayed the same arrogance that Vice President Gore was berated for during the 2000 debates.

yammering away about his "plans"..

The purpose of the debate!

and when even asked for specifics, couldnt do anything but go on about a topic he had already discussed.

Very tough to get into specifics when you're given 2 mins max. I think Kerry gave better responses because for the most part he summed it up as best as he could in the 2 minutes that he was alotted. He didn't constantly ask for rebuttals like the President did.

[toasty]

I'm wondering what to expect from the next two debates. This was supposed to be Bush's trump card -- foreign policy. At least one of the other debates focus strictly on domestic issues, during which Bush will have some 'splainin' to do.

The election has officially gotten interesting again.

[Steve Graham]

How many times did Kerry just go rambling on about what he wanted to say, which was for the most part, a bunch of NOTHING, and avoid the actual question?

Not very many.

Bush stumbled quite a bit, but I thought made stronger points.

You remember any of them? I was sitting watching the same debate, so I think, but I must've had an OBE when he made them

Kerry, just stood there with a stupid smirk,

And nothing about Bush's smirks which were blatantly directed at Sen. Kerry? Bush displayed the same arrogance that Vice President Gore was berated for during the 2000 debates.

yammering away about his "plans"..

The purpose of the debate!

and when even asked for specifics, couldnt do anything but go on about a topic he had already discussed.

Very tough to get into specifics when you're given 2 mins max. I think Kerry gave better responses because for the most part he summed it up as best as he could in the 2 minutes that he was alotted. He didn't constantly ask for rebuttals like the President did.

AS I said, I am NOT into politics, and dont give a toss about either of these candidates. Those were just observations, thats all.
Cheers for dissecting my post though, lol

I noticed W's smirks also, but maybe he was laughing at the fact his opponent looks like fucking Rocky Dennis from the movie Mask. Anyway, whatever, this is why I dont get into politics, everyone says a whole lot of nothing, other than what the OTHER guy is doing wrong.

[PhAntoM MeNaCe]

VenomPoisonKelly, hmmm, not claiming to know anything about you, but when you start making irresponsible statements like 'goodbye miserable failure' you yourself are setting yourself up for failure. Your obviously uneducated and can't develop your own perspective. So now on before you go making erratic statements, keep the ball in your hands before you fumble, son.

As far as the presidents debate last night with the wind surfer, well lets just say it was like someone leaving an abnoxious fart in the middle of the board room, a bit self destructive...yet deeply satisfying!

[skahound]

Your obviously uneducated

I'm assuming that you consider yourself more educated. If that were the case you would understand that the proper use of the first word in the aforementioned quote would have been "You're". Not trying to argue semantics here but you set yourself up for that one.

As far as the presidents debate last night

I believe we're talking about the president in a possessive context so the appropriate use would have been: "president's"

with the wind surfer, well lets just say it was like someone leaving an abnoxious fart in the middle of the board room, a bit self destructive...yet deeply satisfying!

I have to hand it to you, that's a very responsible statement. It's definitely a simile I would use when discussing such a serious topic. And I won't even get on the topic of referring to another user as "VenomPoisonKelly" as opposed to that person's true user-name of "HoneyBearKelly".

[skahound]

Cheers for dissecting my post though, lol

I do it because I love you! Hope all is well over in Tampa.

[Steve Graham]

Cheers for dissecting my post though, lol

I do it because I love you! Hope all is well over in Tampa.

yes it is mate, thanks for asking

hope we have seen the last of these storms this year, i have parties to plan!

[HoneyBearKelly]

abnoxious

As a former New York County spelling bee champ I couldn't let that slide.
It's obnoxious.

[northenstar]

Re: Bush Kerry Debate

I wish we had those here, Blair V Howard, but I guess we have to make do with PM Question time being invaded by nutters in daft T-shirts.

[PhAntoM MeNaCe]

skahound, let me pick my own fights without you in mix. oh an this little spelling lesson of yours is pathetic. Its like your an overzealous grammar-cop! HEY...go over there and bust that guy, hes about to use a run on sentence! Geek.

Oh by the way, if you didnt like my fart in the board room analogy, you should go pull your punk panties out of your arse, things seem to have you a little "up-tight".

[Macho Business Donkey Cow]

Re: Bush Kerry Debate

when you can't ask your opponent a question... it's not really a debate. just "dueling banjo" bullshit.