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  • thesightless
    Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
    • Jun 2004
    • 13567

    #16
    Re: My name is Muhammad.

    why call me? i dont give a damn about the middle eastern people any more. they have shown nothing positive in my lifetime as a society.

    and yes, i will name some random item or pet mohammed for principle.
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    • Miroslav
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      • Apr 2006
      • 4122

      #17
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      The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons, as pick-up trucks with loudspeakers blared messages against Gillian Gibbons, the teacher who was sentenced Thursday to 15 days in prison and deportation.

      They burned pictures of Gibbons and called for her execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."
      I'm really struggling with a question here: Is this behavior really representative of the way most Muslims over in Sudan and other surrounding countries think about things? Or are these protesters just a few whackjobs, and everyone else around there is personally horrified about the notion of murdering a woman for a stupid, ignorant mistake? I'm sorry to say, but I honestly don't know.

      Certainly, there is intolerance everywhere. But at least when the KKK says ugly stuff over here in the US, others are quick to denounce it and to make clear that as a society this is not what we stand for. And while people may have differing opinions over Iraq, war, politics, religion...I would have to go far and wide to find anyone who thinks that a woman should be murdered for this kind of an offense.

      What concerns me is that I never hear other Muslims criticizing these sorts of extreme opinions. And this isn't a small isolated cult we're talking about, this is the expression associated with a major national religion over there. I never hear of people in authority within these Islamic states saying "Shame on you...this is not the way, and this is not what we stand for as Muslims." Why is this?? Is this just selective media over here...or does this never even happen?
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      • Bululu
        Gold Gabber
        • Jun 2004
        • 810

        #18
        Re: My name is Muhammad.

        The stupidest judgment I ve ever seen, on the other hand don't forget guys the tentions between the UK and Sudan around the Darfur story.

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        • Morgan
          Platinum Poster
          • Jun 2004
          • 2234

          #19
          Re: My name is Muhammad.

          It's all a big setup to make the evil west look bad.
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          • ownit
            Getting Somewhere
            • Jan 2007
            • 137

            #20
            Re: My name is Muhammad.

            OK, first off... why, why would a teacher, living in a Muslim country first off, surrounded by Muslims, go out of her way to do something so DUMB like this. Out of million names, she picks Muhammad? She obviously is ridiculing Islam and you expect people to let that slide? Someone posted a picture of a teddy bear saying " Jesus". Believe it or not, Muslims would also be angered by that because Jesus is a mighty messenger to them. Anyhow, that lady deservers whatever she deserves. Thats Sudan's decision. In regards to what she did as being good or bad? Not a very good choice. Miroslav was right, how do you expect Muslims to like those who make a mockery of them?

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            • feather
              Shanghai ooompa loompa
              • Jul 2004
              • 20900

              #21
              Re: My name is Muhammad.

              Originally posted by ownit
              OK, first off... why, why would a teacher, living in a Muslim country first off, surrounded by Muslims, go out of her way to do something so DUMB like this. Out of million names, she picks Muhammad? She obviously is ridiculing Islam and you expect people to let that slide?
              Are you stupid or stupid?

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              • Miroslav
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                • Apr 2006
                • 4122

                #22
                Re: My name is Muhammad.

                Originally posted by ownit
                OK, first off... why, why would a teacher, living in a Muslim country first off, surrounded by Muslims, go out of her way to do something so DUMB like this. Out of million names, she picks Muhammad? She obviously is ridiculing Islam and you expect people to let that slide? Someone posted a picture of a teddy bear saying " Jesus". Believe it or not, Muslims would also be angered by that because Jesus is a mighty messenger to them. Anyhow, that lady deservers whatever she deserves. Thats Sudan's decision. In regards to what she did as being good or bad? Not a very good choice. Miroslav was right, how do you expect Muslims to like those who make a mockery of them?
                First of all, read the fucking article: the kids in the classroom named the teddy bear. She just went along not knowing any better.



                Gibbons was teaching her pupils, who are around age 7, about animals and asked one of them to bring in her teddy bear, said Robert Boulos, a spokesman for Unity High School in Khartoum. She asked the students to pick names for it and they proposed Abdullah, Hassan and Muhammad, and in September, the pupils voted to name it Muhammad, he said.
                Furthermore, you clearly misunderstood my comment. While I don't think that she should have done what she did, I don't think that anyone should face jail time, lashes, or even death over a name given to a teddy bear, for God's sake. It was an innocent mistake, and she should apologize and be forgiven.

                And finally, if you think that this woman should be severely punished over something this stupid...then I can only hope your own ruthlessness is returned to you TENFOLD the next time YOU make a mistake.

                Have a nice fucking day.
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                • res0nat0r
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                  • May 2006
                  • 14475

                  #23
                  Re: My name is Muhammad.

                  ^^awesome

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                  • DragonFire
                    Addiction started
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 359

                    #24
                    Re: My name is Muhammad.

                    OK OK ... well dont believe everything your hear ... first off i really was disappointed by some of the comments around here .. i am muslim and i am from the middle east and really some comments were just childish or ignorant ... I seriously think that the wankers who accused the lady are probably very bad educated ... Yes making fun of a prophet is very badly perceived in our religion whether its jesus or mohamed or moses , but just naming a teddy bear doesnt mean anything , things are becoming really over exagerated nowadays .. some ppl are just looking to make the news and they dont know when they are doing something like that it fires back in their face and in the face of ppl like me who get caught up in the middle just because i am being stereotyped .. Last thing for anyone out there who doesnt know about islam , the middle eastern countries and most of the muslim ppl nowadays give the religion really a bad image and its been goin on since the f**** 9/11 thing , i really dont know when is this going to end ....
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                    • chunky
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 10564

                      #25
                      Re: My name is Muhammad.

                      They burned pictures of Gibbons and called for her execution, saying, "No tolerance: Execution," and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad."
                      This isn't something that's been made up there's footage of this on most news channels
                      Originally posted by res0nat0r
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                      • Miroslav
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                        • Apr 2006
                        • 4122

                        #26
                        Re: My name is Muhammad.

                        to answer my own question from earlier (why don't Muslims and the people of Sudan loudly condemn these kinds of insane calls for execution, etc.?), I was heartened to see this article:

                        Muslims: Sudan Protesters Don't Represent Us
                        Muslim moderates speak out against the conviction of a British teacher in Sudan.


                        It's in Muslims' own interest to denounce these sorts of barbaric expressions and events. As long as Muslims don't do this, they will find themselves on no-fly lists, regarded with suspicion by the rest of the world, etc. I'm not saying that is right, but it's reality; the rest of the world, still terrrified from a previous string of terrorist acts, is in the mood to place caution over trust. If the world sees Muslims and their governments rise up against its own violent factions like this, it will stop fearing them.
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                        • ownit
                          Getting Somewhere
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 137

                          #27
                          Re: My name is Muhammad.

                          Originally posted by Miroslav
                          to answer my own question from earlier (why don't Muslims and the people of Sudan loudly condemn these kinds of insane calls for execution, etc.?), I was heartened to see this article:

                          Muslims: Sudan Protesters Don't Represent Us
                          Muslim moderates speak out against the conviction of a British teacher in Sudan.


                          It's in Muslims' own interest to denounce these sorts of barbaric expressions and events. As long as Muslims don't do this, they will find themselves on no-fly lists, regarded with suspicion by the rest of the world, etc. I'm not saying that is right, but it's reality; the rest of the world, still terrrified from a previous string of terrorist acts, is in the mood to place caution over trust. If the world sees Muslims and their governments rise up against its own violent factions like this, it will stop fearing them.
                          Still terrified from a previous string of terrorist acts? lol ahhh man. Am i going to be the only one here who knows that those "terrorist attacks" was something called "false flagging"? A term used to blame a certain people or religion for something the US gov. had planned.

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                          • Miroslav
                            WHOA I can change this!1!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 4122

                            #28
                            Re: My name is Muhammad.

                            Originally posted by ownit
                            Still terrified from a previous string of terrorist acts? lol ahhh man. Am i going to be the only one here who knows that those "terrorist attacks" was something called "false flagging"? A term used to blame a certain people or religion for something the US gov. had planned.
                            nice...so first, you argue that a middle-aged woman should be beaten or killed over a mistake involving a teddy bear, and now it's the old "I know Bush caused 9-11". I'll be sure to only consider your future posts for their entertainment value from now on
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                            • chunky
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 10564

                              #29
                              Re: My name is Muhammad.

                              Originally posted by Miroslav
                              now it's the old "I know Bush caused 9-11". I'll be sure to only consider your future posts for their entertainment value from now on
                              I very much doubt that the Muslims had much to do with 9-11. What did they do pray and building no 7 just fell down into its own footprint (no impact). The evidence against is just overwhelming. And that's something people can talk for days about, and believer will believe and nonbelievers wont.
                              Originally posted by res0nat0r
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                              • Miroslav
                                WHOA I can change this!1!
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 4122

                                #30
                                Re: My name is Muhammad.

                                Originally posted by chunky
                                I very much doubt that the Muslims had much to do with 9-11. What did they do pray and building no 7 just fell down into its own footprint (no impact). The evidence against is just overwhelming. And that's something people can talk for days about, and believer will believe and nonbelievers wont.
                                OK well here we go...classes are over, I'm in a bad mood, and I have too much time on my hands today anyways.

                                Building 7 was very closely within the perimeter of the towers and by eyewitness accounts sustained significant structural damage when the main towers fell. Despite a ton of conspiracy theories I've read about, that is the best evidence that I have seen is that the building fell as a consequence of the main towers going down. Read this:


                                "They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and West Street. They put everybody back in there. Finally it did come down. From there - this is much later on in the day, because every day we were so worried about that building we didn't really want to get people close. They were trying to limit the amount of people that were in there. Finally it did come down. -
                                Richard Banaciski, NYFD Firefighter, Ladder 22

                                He was a firefighter. He was there and he saw it. There are plenty of other accounts from rescue personnel who were there and saw what was going on, and they give very similar accounts.

                                I'll take their word over yours any day.

                                Of course, I'm sure your own politically convenient conclusions are far too important to be disturbed by things like eyewitness accounts.

                                ok I'm out...
                                Last edited by Miroslav; December 2, 2007, 07:37:46 PM.
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