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  • toasty
    Sir Toastiness
    • Jun 2004
    • 6585

    CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

    Anyone watch this last night? A couple of observations:

    1. The candidates were asked to create a "YouTube-style" campaign video to be shown during the debate. All of the candidates, with the exception of Guiliani, completely mailed this in. His was quirky and clever, including a self-deprecating claim that he was responsible for the decreased snowfall in NYC during his tenure as mayor. The rest of them were just traditional campaign videos that had a progress bar running beneath them.

    2. I understand why Mike Huckabee is gaining in the polls amongst conservatives. Trying to be totally objective, I thought he had the best debate performance. That's not to say that I would vote for him, but from the outside looking in, he seemed thoughtful, knowledgeable, caring and conservative. He had a few zingers, too.

    3. I thought Romney was terrible. Some of his responses were good, and some were bad, but the ones that were bad were really, really bad. His non-answer on waterboarding was a clear dodge and would have pleased no one, regardless of whether or not they approve of the practice. From my standpoint, I thought McCain made him look ridiculous on that point, but I can't imagine that Romney supporters felt good about his clear waffling. Other responses looked over-rehearsed.

    4. There has been much talk about the fact that one of the questioners -- a retired Brig. general who is openly gay -- is a Clinton supporter. There have also been stories about some of the other questioners being Edwards or Obama supporters. Check those out here. The suggestion is that this is somehow CNN's fault. OK, perhaps they shouldn't have actually brought someone there, in person, to ask a question without making sure that they weren't linked to a particular campaign, but Anderson Cooper was explicit at the outset of the debate that questions were going to be asked by people from all over the spectrum, and he specifically indicated that some questions would be coming from Democrats. Why is a question less worthy of being asked because it comes from someone on the other side of the spectrum? Tempest in a teapot, IMO.

    5. Why are Tancredo and Hunter still allowed to attend these things? We're at the point where it's just a waste of time that could be given to legitimate candidates.

    Anyone else have any thoughts?
  • Shpira
    Angry Boy Child
    • Oct 2006
    • 4969

    #2
    Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8[/YOUTUBE]
    The Idiots ARE Winning.


    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
    Mark Twain

    SOBRIETY MIX

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    • toasty
      Sir Toastiness
      • Jun 2004
      • 6585

      #3
      Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

      ^^Huckabee should've used that for the debate, that's a riot. The one he used was unmemorable...

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      • rubyraks
        DUDERZ get a life!!!
        • Jun 2004
        • 5341

        #4
        Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

        Don't you have better things to watch than the 100th debate of the year?
        "Work like you don't need the money.
        Love like you've never been hurt.
        Dance like nobody's watching.
        Sing like nobody's listening.
        Live like it's Heaven on Earth."

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        • toasty
          Sir Toastiness
          • Jun 2004
          • 6585

          #5
          Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

          Definitely, but these YouTube debates are actually a lot more interesting than the garden-variety debates. I was curious to see how the republican field would handle the looser, more free-wheeling format...

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          • |Thrax|
            Platinum Poster
            • Mar 2007
            • 1744

            #6
            Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

            I thought it was a good performance.. especially to see how they react to questions asked by young people, in a random sort of roundtable way..

            It was pretty good, i've been following Ron Paul for a while. He definitely brought a crowd.

            There were some actually really funny responses.

            Good for the promotion, good for the people.


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            • superdave
              Platinum Poster
              • Jun 2004
              • 1366

              #7
              Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

              I caught most of it and thought it was one of the more interesting debates recently. The debate over who's tougher on immigration between Romney and Giuliani was entertaining. I also liked the question over do you believe every word in the Bible. It's funny to watch the candidates try to play to the right wing base.

              They did talk about issues that I'm most interested in though. I agree in being tough on illegal immigration and controlling the borders. And I don't want there to be a massive tax increase. I see the Republicans tougher on terrorism and crime too which are also important to me.
              Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte

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              • runningman
                Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
                • Jun 2004
                • 5995

                #8
                Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

                I thought that the questions were very weak.. I also find it funny that Giuliani and McCain sandwiched Ron Paul in certain questions.. they must see him as the biggest threat in order to do that.. Giuliani is going to win the elections..

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                • Jenks
                  I'm kind of a big deal.
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 10250

                  #9
                  Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

                  if rudy wins, then we have learned nothing from the last 8 years.

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                  • toasty
                    Sir Toastiness
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 6585

                    #10
                    Re: CNN/YouTube GOP Debate

                    I do hope that the somewhat legitimate outrage about Kerr confronting candidates in person and the absurd outrage that other, less confrontational questions were asked by Democrats isn't the GOP's way of making sure that they don't have to do any more of these YouTube debates. Best debate format by far, IMO.

                    I read something by a conservative blogger, forget who right now, that was all bent out of shape because the dude that asked the question about Social Security is a Social Security activist and had footage on his website of him asking Obama and maybe some other candidates, I forget, about their position on Social Security. Why is it cause for concern when someone with a open and documented interest in Social Security, and who has publicly questioned other candidates about SS, asks republican candidates about SS? It's an issue he obviously cares about, why wouldn't he ask every candidate if given the opportunity. Why does it become a "loaded" or "unfair" question because he's asking a republican? Are republicans unconcerned about social security?

                    Also, the gal that asked the abortion question about whether, assuming Roe v Wade is overturned and abortions are ultimately outlawed, there ought to be criminal penalties for people and doctors performing abortions turns out to be an Edwards supporter. Don't a lot of republicans believe that abortion is murder and that performing an abortion is therefore a criminal act? Doesn't this question give the candidates an opportunity to talk about their view on this? It's a tough question for moderate pro-lifers, but for those trying to appeal to the rep. base, it's a question they ought to knock out of the park. Completely fair question, IMO.

                    Also, I thought the GOP hopefuls did just fine -- they have no reason to shy away from this debate format. Having snubbed it initially and the criticism that's been lodged after the fact, it certainly seems like party operatives are angling to do away with the format, though.

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