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  • toasty
    Sir Toastiness
    • Jun 2004
    • 6585

    Massacre

    I'm sure most of you, at least those of you that live in the US, have heard about the tragic shooting at the Nebraska mall yesterday. What can you say, truly awful. My heart goes out to the families that were affected, as I sure is the case with everyone.

    Certainly not looking to make light of the tragedy or use it as a springboard to a much more glib and pointless conversation, but it prompted a discussion between my wife and I that would benefit from some more input. Here's the question: It is referred to by most news services as a "massacre," but was it? If not, what constitutes a "massacre?" Certainly, a "massacre" implies an event where multiple people die, but is there more to it than that?

    She seemed to think that more than 9 people needed to die for it to qualify, where I think that the fact that the killing was indiscriminate, senseless and effectively random pushes it into that category, provided there are multiple deaths. Moreover, I think that even without that, 9 people dying is enough to get that unwelcome title.

    So...

    1. Is 9 deaths enough to qualify as a massacre?
    2. Is it strictly a matter of numbers, or is there something about the nature of the act that enters into it?

    Thoughts? I know this probably seems like a heartless discussion to have in the wake of something like this, but the root discussion was about whether the media was being overly sensationalistic by referring to it in that fashion, FWIW.
  • tiddles
    Encryption, Jr.
    • Jun 2004
    • 6861

    #2
    Re: Massacre

    i doubt the news people are having this deep of a conversation...
    as they say in journalism school - if it bleeds, it ledes! ok, massacre it is...

    i wonder if this is in the AP stylebook

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    • 88Mariner
      My dick is smaller
      • Nov 2006
      • 7128

      #3
      Re: Massacre

      it's a question of fact given the circumstances: i'd say 9 people is probably the LEAST you need to have to be constiuted a massacre. But, you can also massacre animals: I think a massacre would have to be well more than nine. If you step on an ant pile, was there a massacre? What about dogs? Or Whales?

      (i'm reminded of a quote: Size, gunslinger. Size)

      You can also massacre an oponent: it's purposeful and you have an intended victim.

      I think the word massacre should probably be abandoned when it includes death of innocent people, as it really does not convey any information that is material to the facts. (ie: 9 People were murdered vs. There was a massacre) Did we call 9/11 a massacre? Nope! (this makes me wonder if there is a cap on what could constitute a massacre, even though it would fit within the context).
      you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

      it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

      Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

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      • Shpira
        Angry Boy Child
        • Oct 2006
        • 4969

        #4
        Re: Massacre

        "one death is a tragedy a million a statistic" (loosly quoted)....Josef Stalin
        The Idiots ARE Winning.


        "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
        Mark Twain

        SOBRIETY MIX

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        • Garrick
          DUDERZ get a life!!!
          • Jun 2004
          • 6764

          #5
          Re: Massacre

          regardless, i have a feeling this is going to become a common theme here in the US. mass shootings from "mentally unstable" people has become quite popular... our friend cho at va tech was spot on when he said this will become more and more common. these turds are selfish as shit... "at least now i'll be famous" give me a fucking break. go to the doctor and get some help, don't kill people.

          oh well... think of it as population control definitely a massacre no matter how you look at it.
          Should I fuck you at that not until the ass, inject then tremendously hard bumschen and to the termination in the eyes yes?

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          • Dhar_2
            meat and potatoes
            • Jun 2004
            • 18917

            #6
            Re: Massacre

            god damn it!!

            can you people stop shooting each other!!!

            ..or at least not give guns to complete idiots!!!

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            • nick007
              DUDERZ get a life!!!
              • Oct 2007
              • 6095

              #7
              Re: Massacre

              Originally posted by Dhar_2
              god damn it!!

              can you people stop shooting each other!!!

              ..or at least not give guns to complete idiots!!!
              I'm with you on this one!

              Senseless

              The largest room in the world, is the room for improvement!

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              • shosh
                Banned
                • Jun 2004
                • 4668

                #8
                Re: Massacre

                Originally posted by Dhar_2
                god damn it!!

                can you people stop shooting each other!!!

                ..or at least not give guns to complete idiots!!!
                it's got nothing to do with anyone giving someone guns. if someone wants a gun badly they can find a way to get it no matter where you are.

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                • Homskillet
                  Platinum Poster
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1289

                  #9
                  Re: Massacre

                  I don't know if it's a matter of how many people died which constitutes whether it's a massacre. I think it's how people died.

                  If 15 people died in a bus crash, it wouldn't be called a massacre... it'd be called a tragedy.

                  If 5 people died from some crazy chainsaw guy out in Texas, it'd be called a massacre.
                  https://soundcloud.com/dahlheim/shadynasty-tres-final

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