plasma vs lcd

[beanzncheez]

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You can get lost for days at avsforums. I have. It's a great place to do some research on. The main reason behind blurring, clouding, etc. is due to the processors in the tv, not the actual panel itself. Samsung is great in many respects because they make quality panels and great internal components. Last I checked, there are only four companies in the world that make panels. Everyone else buys those panels for their televisions. My 24" Dell widescreen has a panel made by Samsung. After much research, I picked this one and enjoy it. I don't game so I didn't go by fastest response time because I prefer to have a great picture. Gaming screens are designed to suffer on picture quality as they want fast response time.

[Homskillet]

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Now that the many of the LCD's have gone with 120hz you don't get the blur as much as they used to. Sure, if you look super closely you can still barely see it but LCD is almost the same as plasma now, when it comes to ghosting.

As for the Plasma, the panasonic 700 series acutally got incredible reviews even over the new Pioneer Kuro.

I've actually been doing a shit load of research on on plasmas vs. lcd's lately because I'm also in the market to buy them.

What I've been reading a lot is Plasma's are better for darker blacks, and LCD's are better for more vibrant colors.

If I were to go with LCD it would be the new Samsung. NOT SONY. Sony's XBR's were incredible last year but they don't match up against the new samsungs.

If you're going to go with the 50" plasma, go with the panasonic...
TH-50PZ700U

If you've got money to burn then go with the Pioneer Elite Kuro... you won't get a better picture BUT you're going to pay for it too.

[beanzncheez]

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Sonys have always been overrated. I've compared many and I could never get a good picture with those damn things. Overpriced. I don't wear glasses or contacts and my vision is great so that could be my downfall for not liking Sonys. There are still plenty of TVs with 120Hz that have issues and you will find them in the threads on avs. The problem with panasonics is their processors. They've improved but they're still seeing issues. You definitely won't get a great image with them. You will get a decent one though.

[asdf_admin]

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My new TV will be a Samsung. For the price and quality you really get the best.

The Top selling HQ TV are either Sony or Samsung. I have heard they actually share a lot of the same components ... except for when the Sony logo is slapped on the labor cost increase $500 - $1000.

Yep. Samsung all the way baby. I am just waiting for a 32 to go 1080P and I am golden.

[beanzncheez]

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You don't want to settle for a 32. Go bigger. You'll be kicking yourself.

[asdf_admin]

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... Just our bedroom TV.

[ddr]

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... Just our bedroom TV.

bling bling

[TomTom]

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Is there much difference between HD ready and Full HD? My 32 "" LCD is only HD ready and this is I think 500-600 pixels below the 1920x1200 full HD resolution. The difference between the normal tv resoultion to this is recognizable but I don't know how much the few extra pixels will bring in your average tv session.

While I am at..can anybody explain to me how upscaling works in a way that I can understand it lol? As far as I see it, when you enlarge a resolution the result does not get better because if you can't add more information and details you just blow the data up...I imagine this like encoding a 64kb stream to a 320k mp3 file..what is not there can't be added but maybe this comparison is wrong. Is the information available on a DVD in higher resolution and it is normally downscaled (if such a word exists) and the upscaling reverses the effect?

What I also would like to know is how is it possible that everything can be broadcasted in HD. We have a channel where they show old rubbish western and 60ties movies in HD. What is the original resolution of such old movies and is everything you see on the telly downscaled as well so it is compatible with the tv format? I like the new toys but HD still confuses me lol.

[beanzncheez]

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... Just our bedroom TV.

How far away are you going to be from the tv? We're going with no less than a 40" as our headboard is almost 13 feet away from the opposite wall. Anything smaller would be very annoying to look at.

[asdf_admin]

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About ten feet. This will just be primarily for me and evening viewing of sports center and the news. We watch flicks when the boo is asleep but I would rather get huge a HDTV for the downstairs. Still have not pulled the trigger ... for money I would rather just get the main room HDTV and wait for the prices drop for the bedroom. Dunno. waiting.

[day_for_night]

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i have a 42" LG Plasma, and love it. I'd still consider buying a plasma over an lcd right now, but thats just personal preference. watching HD is so much better than regular tv or movies, you won't really give a shit. In 3-5 years, sure, but right now just having a good HDTV is fantastic.

the main concern with a plasma is to get the extended warranty. I've got a 5 year replacement if-it-craps-out warranty, and wouldn't have gone any other way. once a plasma goes, its gone.

[beanzncheez]

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No. The main concern is getting a good quality screen. Secondary, is the warranty or extended coverage.

assfuck_admin... 40" isn't big. That's the standard. I see them everyday. Don't go small. It doesn't pay to be a cheap ass. You'll be kicking yourself afterwards.

[asdf_admin]

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lol.

[Kamal]

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While I am at..can anybody explain to me how upscaling works in a way that I can understand it lol? As far as I see it, when you enlarge a resolution the result does not get better because if you can't add more information and details you just blow the data up...I imagine this like encoding a 64kb stream to a 320k mp3 file..what is not there can't be added but maybe this comparison is wrong. Is the information available on a DVD in higher resolution and it is normally downscaled (if such a word exists) and the upscaling reverses the effect?

The difference between upscaling video to HiDef vs. mp3 to Higher bitrates is $$
Here, engineers and programmers write advanced recoding software to upscale the video vs. mp3 upscalers you download on sourceforge.

I read a detailed paper about it but didnt understand the half of it, but understood something along the lines of how a laser reads the data on the dvd, deciphers the pixel color info from one pixel to another (and around the overall object), run algorithms to decide the closest color match of the new pixel data and build up a higher resolution picture from it. They add sharpening and other tweaks to the data (some of the better upscalers threw in Faroudja's chipsets for smoothing out the video output in hi-def) and created a remarkably improved albeit fake hidef signal.

What I also would like to know is how is it possible that everything can be broadcasted in HD. We have a channel where they show old rubbish western and 60ties movies in HD. What is the original resolution of such old movies and is everything you see on the telly downscaled as well so it is compatible with the tv format? I like the new toys but HD still confuses me lol.

HD upscaling has its limitations, those old rubbish 60ties movies can only be upscaled by so much, so they still look like shit. The original resolution would be the resolution of the camera recorded them back in the 60s. Nothing is downscaled, nearly all of the tvs (until the advent of HD) displayed the data as it was presented to them in the horrid analog format, of course they threw in curved screen tvs, flat screen tvs, anti-glare tvs, small screen large screen tvs, sony's pioneering 3 beam trinitron's, improved refresh rates, yaada yaada yaada, but end of the day, they were not too far apart from each other because the signal was so shitty, the visual improvements were too small to take notice.

Full HiDef on the other hand has nearly 4 times the lines and so of course at that high a resolution, the digital signal can be tweaker ridiculously and filters added for a picture quality that's not even in the same playing field as analogue tvs

[TomTom]

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Thx mate.