Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

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  • yesme
    Gold Gabber
    • Dec 2006
    • 941

    Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

    Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

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    President Bush last week signed into law a bill which will see the federal government begin to screen the DNA of all newborn babies in the U.S. within six months, a move critics have described as the first step towards the establishment of a national DNA database.
    Described as a "national contingency plan" the justification for the new law S. 1858, known as The Newborn Screening Saves Lives Act of 2007, is that it represents preparation for any sort of "public health emergency."
    The bill states that the federal government should "continue to carry out, coordinate, and expand research in newborn screening" and "maintain a central clearinghouse of current information on newborn screening... ensuring that the clearinghouse is available on the Internet and is updated at least quarterly".
    Sections of the bill also make it clear that DNA may be used in genetic experiments and tests.
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    Here's some more info...
    A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish grant programs to provide for education and outreach on newborn screening and coordinated followup care once newborn screening has been conducted, to reauthorize programs under part A of title XI of such Act, and for other purposes.

    Thoughts???
  • ddr
    DUDERZ get a life!!!
    • Jun 2004
    • 7006

    #2
    Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

    big brother imo.
    "pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" James

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    • Miroslav
      WHOA I can change this!1!
      • Apr 2006
      • 4122

      #3
      Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

      makes you wonder why the hell he vetoed stem cell research...
      mixes: www.waxdj.com/miroslav

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      • yesme
        Gold Gabber
        • Dec 2006
        • 941

        #4
        Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

        here is a good read, important parts highlighted
        Feds to collect DNA from every person they arrest
        April 16, 2008 - 7:39pm
        By EILEEN SULLIVAN
        Associated Press Writer
        WASHINGTON (AP) - The government plans to begin collecting DNA samples from anyone arrested(not convicted,but arrested) by a federal law enforcement agency _ a move intended to prevent violent crime but which also is raising concerns about the privacy of innocent people.
        Using authority granted by Congress, the government also plans to collect DNA samples from foreigners who are detained, whether they have been charged or not. The DNA would be collected through a cheek swab, Justice Department spokesman Erik Ablin said Wednesday. That would be a departure from current practice, which limits DNA collection to convicted felons.
        Expanding the DNA database, known as CODIS, raises civil liberties questions about the potential for misuse of such personal information, such as family ties and genetic conditions.
        Ablin said the DNA collection would be subject to the same privacy laws applied to current DNA sampling. That means none of it would be used for identifying genetic traits, diseases or disorders.
        Congress gave the Justice Department the authority to expand DNA collection in two different laws passed in 2005 and 2006.
        There are dozens of federal law enforcement agencies, ranging from the FBI to the Library of Congress Police. The federal government estimates it makes about 140,000 arrests each year.
        Justice officials estimate the new collecting requirements would add DNA from an additional 1.2 million people to the database each year.
        Those who support the expanded collection believe that DNA sampling could get violent criminals off the streets and prevent them from committing more crimes.
        A Chicago study in 2005 found that 53 murders and rapes could have been prevented if a DNA sample had been collected upon arrest.
        "Many innocent lives could have been saved had the government began this kind of DNA sampling in the 1990s when the technology to do so first became available," Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., said. Kyl sponsored the 2005 law that gave the Justice Department this authority.
        Thirteen states have similar laws: Alaska, Arizona, California, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.
        The new regulation would mean that the federal government could store DNA samples of people who are not guilty of any crime, said Jesselyn McCurdy, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union.
        "Now innocent people's DNA will be put into this huge CODIS database, and it will be very difficult for them to get it out if they are not charged or convicted of a crime," McCurdy said.
        If a person is arrested but not convicted, he or she can ask the Justice Department to destroy the sample.
        The Homeland Security Department _ the federal agency charged with policing immigration _ supports the new rule.
        "DNA is a proven law-enforcement tool," DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said.
        The rule would not allow for DNA samples to be collected from immigrants who are legally in the United States or those being processed for admission, unless the person was arrested.
        The proposed rule is being published in the Federal Register. That will be followed by a 30-day comment period.
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        • toasty
          Sir Toastiness
          • Jun 2004
          • 6585

          #5
          Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

          Anyone that believes that Bush believes in the traditional Republican ideas of "small, unintrusive government" needs to get his/her head examined. Least republican "Republican" president ever.

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          • 88Mariner
            My dick is smaller
            • Nov 2006
            • 7128

            #6
            Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

            Originally posted by ddr
            big brother imo.
            this isn't your opinion. it's a fact. just like 2+2=4.

            For once, i sit here at the typewriting, reflecting on the original post....at a loss of words.
            you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

            it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

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            • Huggie Smiles
              Anyone have Styx livesets?
              • Jun 2004
              • 11836

              #7
              Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

              They have already screened all newborns for one disorder for many many years (PKU)- this is another step for screening for many other disorders. And there is no doubt it can save or improve lives of many people.

              its such a complicated legal/medical/ethical issue -

              clearly there are multiple other issues that the information could be used for and thats where it gets very complicated.

              At least they put GINA through too - to (allegedly) stop insurance companies and employers from discriminating against people based on the genetic test results (they can of course work around that issue and base it on something else)
              ....Freak in the morning, Freak in the evening, aint no other Freak like me thats breathing....




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              • toasty
                Sir Toastiness
                • Jun 2004
                • 6585

                #8
                Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                ^^I understand that there is a lot of good that could come from harvesting everyone's DNA and maintaining a database of it. To me, though, the creepy component is just overwhelming...

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                • Huggie Smiles
                  Anyone have Styx livesets?
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 11836

                  #9
                  Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                  the potential for abuse is unlimited.
                  ....Freak in the morning, Freak in the evening, aint no other Freak like me thats breathing....




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                  • 88Mariner
                    My dick is smaller
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 7128

                    #10
                    Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                    the ONLY way i could support such a move is if there was a private entreprise, a middle-man, who through government subsidy, paid willing volunteers. outside of this, it is not and should not be permitted.
                    you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                    it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                    Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                    ----PEACE-----

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                    • AntonyM
                      DUDERZ get a life!!!
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 6415

                      #11
                      Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                      X Files comes to life, not to far off before the pages of Brave New World begin to turn.
                      Originally posted by Shpira
                      So came back last night...
                      Sven Vath was amazing...he played a god damn killer set...ended up going to that and came to at like 10 am in some whore house in south Amsterdam...no idea how I ended up there...friday was a bit of a blur got really drunk and visited several parties can't remember a whole lot to be honest hehe...saturday was probably the best day that I recall...started up in the nearest coffee shop and going from party to party...beautiful woman, beer and weed...finished the night by taking some shrooms and listening to an amazing elke kleijn set...sunday...i met a nice girl who worked at one of the coffee shops and ended up talking to her for like 6 hours...was supposed to meet her at some DnB party...but instead went for a steak and walked around red light district bars drinking and smoking...monday took it easy went to a coffee shop and took a taxi to airport....

                      All in all...I think I will be going back there some time soon
                      Originally posted by Illuminate
                      Let me get this straight.

                      So white-middle class Americans have been told by their Television sets to be fearful of:

                      1. Mexicans/Latinos from the South bringing drugs and killings n' shit.
                      2. African Americans cause mos def they are raging a race war and want to occupy America like how the plebs occupied Wall St.
                      3. Iranians/Afghans/Any one of middle eastern origin to be quite frank, cause you know Islam...
                      4. North Koreans/Chinese cause you know everything...

                      Am I close here?

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                      • Shpira
                        Angry Boy Child
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 4969

                        #12
                        Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                        I warned you all a while back...you all called me a crazy conspiracy theorist...
                        The Idiots ARE Winning.


                        "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
                        Mark Twain

                        SOBRIETY MIX

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                        • sakio pod
                          SALAD TOSSER
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 6034

                          #13
                          Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                          there would have been hundreds of rapists murders etc put behind bars sooner if there was a DNA database.....just as kids we all got finger printed

                          we'll this will help in the future 20 years from now some punks rape a girl and get away well they got your jizz check the dna tester and boom shows who the person is

                          i think its great

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                          • 88Mariner
                            My dick is smaller
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 7128

                            #14
                            Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                            Originally posted by sakio pod
                            there would have been hundreds of rapists murders etc put behind bars sooner if there was a DNA database.....just as kids we all got finger printed

                            we'll this will help in the future 20 years from now some punks rape a girl and get away well they got your jizz check the dna tester and boom shows who the person is

                            i think its great

                            You know what? Why not just lock everyone behind bars while we're at it? That way, nobody can ever commit a crime! And who doesn't want to eliminate crime?!
                            you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                            it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                            Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                            ----PEACE-----

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                            • thesightless
                              Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 13567

                              #15
                              Re: Bush Signs Bill To Take All Newborns' DNA

                              im all for collecting it from accused violent criminals, (yes, accused, not convicted, ppl get off on BS -- OJ-- scott peterson)

                              but this.... its just way too far. this is the shit from sci fi novels

                              unless they take it from minority kisd, cuz they all end up criminals anyway.
                              your life is an occasion, rise to it.

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