Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

[toasty]

Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

sorry, I had given some of my reasons in a bunch of other threads but i dont mind reiterating them:
- dont agree with his views on war. i think its very pussy like that he wants to go and sit down and have talks with terrorists, etc. im not saying we should invade every country, but what would have happened if we sat down and had a nice talk with Hitler.
- dont agree with his views on guns. 2nd amendment doesnt give us the right to bear arms. the wording states that our right to bear arms should not be infringed upon
- i do not favor the fact that he was backing rev wright for 20 years and only now that it is not favoring his campaign he denounced his former mentor, best friend, etc and resigned from the church
- i do not favor the way his wife, possible first lady, talked about the USA
- i dont think he has enough experience to show us what he can do. so far he hasnt accomplished much so for me it is all talk

these are just a few things, but they are some that i feel very very strongly about.

I started to respond point by point to this, but it just seems like a waste. You've already made up your mind that Obama is a non-flag pin-wearing, caucasian-hating, Pledge of Allegiance-refusing terrorist, so I'm not going to waste my keystrokes. I do have to point out, though, that the "sentence" in bold type of there is just absurd. "I think its very pussy?" What the hell does that even mean?

[88Mariner]

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it means he's a woman. Which should satisfy Hillary supporters.

[thesightless]

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both candidates are over hyped, under qualified, big talk idiots.

obama is a party line democrat. (check his voting record) NOTHING MORE. he isnt a middle road guy, he has little experience, and is as much a socialist movement as hillary was.

mccain is old, hard line, border line neo con. mroe socially liberal in opinions, but wont act on them as his party is retarded. his fiscal and "defense" (read: offense) policy is up there with bush.

no matter who gets elected, congressional ineptitude will preventt them from doing anything. our country is split, and our representatives arent willing to concede items, but hold out to get what they want.

obama wont make a good president, mccain has zero shot as well.

stupidity rules here, and people dont realize how our gov't operates on the federal level. vote smarter when it comes time to put people in the houses, once we handle that, gov't will move quicker, act smarter and maybe get it together.


and toasty. obama WILL NOT BE A GOOD PRESIDENT, NOR WILL MCCAIN. we are fucked like an 18 year old japanese bitch in a fetish video. i.e. we are gonna get fucked, how bad?> depends on the sicko.

[toasty]

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I do have to point out, though, that the "sentence" in bold type of there is just absurd. "I think its very pussy?" What the hell does that even mean?

OK, I think I get it now, it was having "pussy" and "like" as two different words that threw me. Do you mean pusillanimous?

[thesightless]

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***insert team america explanation of dicks and pussies here***

[toasty]

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rant rant rant

wow dude, have a slurpee or something, where's all that anger coming from? You used to come in here and post at least semi-lucid points. Now it's just the wild ramblings of a grumpy old man.

[thesightless]

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because every one of you have abandoned factual presentation and are fucking stumping for votes for two idiots. obama is no saviour. he is a fucking left wing party line democrat. he says he isnt, but his actions prove otherwise. same shit for mccain on the right side.

obama is a twit puppet. you know it , i know it. how else did a rookie senator get this far. he was spoted as being young, mixed race, mixed religous, and well spoken. i.e. the perfect manchurian candidate for a country that hates the representative of the so called white rich party.

please, since im just ranting away, show me one fucking thing this mutt did in his career/life that shows he will unite anyone. hint : you wont.

mind you that it is his party that is so much more responsible for the current state of affairs in our country and its crisises outside of the war on islam.

[shosh]

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I started to respond point by point to this, but it just seems like a waste. You've already made up your mind that Obama is a non-flag pin-wearing, caucasian-hating, Pledge of Allegiance-refusing terrorist, so I'm not going to waste my keystrokes. I do have to point out, though, that the "sentence" in bold type of there is just absurd. "I think its very pussy?" What the hell does that even mean?

im glad someone explained... the pussy reference... i was typing fast as i had to make a call back to a client

i have not said much (if anything) about the flag-pin, pledge of allegiance, his refusal to put his hand to his heart during the national anthem. so dont accuse me of those things. although since you brought that up, ill say something about that too. people criticize bush (justly so) for being a douchebag. so does that mean that obama should be one as well? imo the president should be the #1 example of patriotism and pride of our country, its values, and principles that it was established on.

wow dude, have a slurpee or something, where's all that anger coming from? You used to come in here and post at least semi-lucid points. Now it's just the wild ramblings of a grumpy old man.

i wish i could be as eloquent as sightless because he literally took words out of my brain...

sightless for pres

[thesightless]

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vote mccain. he is god

vote obama. he is god

that is what this forum is now. no more discussions of viewpoints and facts. just pitching for votes. toasty only puts forth anti mccain articles and article making him seem like jesus himself. same shit for shosh with mccain.

guys, give us some evidence as to why we should go one way or another.

[Jenks]

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sean got out of the boat about a year ago. never came back.

[thesightless]

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if i were president, things would be great. becuase i would let those who have expertise in said feilds make the decisions. shit like gay marriage would go right to popular vote and if voted down, i would at least assign them every legal right outside of the word.

and i would call a spade a spade.

[toasty]

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please, since im just ranting away, show me one fucking thing this mutt did in his career/life that shows he will unite anyone. hint : you wont.

I've got a hop on a call here in a few so I don't have a lot of time to devote to this, but the Lugar-Obama anti-nuclear proliferation bill and the Coburn-Obama Transparency Act are a couple of bi-partisan bills that he helped author that spring to mind.

[toasty]

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mind you that it is his party that is so much more responsible for the current state of affairs in our country and its crisises outside of the war on islam.

and by the way, this pretty much undermines anything you have to say, period. The Dems have done diddly poo over the last 8 years, and not for lack of trying. That's like standing in a rowboat and shooting shotgun shells into the bottom of the boat, but blaming a guy standing on shore for it sinking.

[88Mariner]

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if i were president, things would be great. becuase i would let those who have expertise in said feilds make the decisions. shit like gay marriage would go right to popular vote and if voted down, i would at least assign them every legal right outside of the word.

and i would call a spade a spade.

ah yes. tyrrany of the majority. perhaps a populace could also vote on rescinding the right to bear arms..or the right to a jury trial.

[MJDub]

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I think I can offer a unique perspective on this due to the fact that both of my parents live in Saudi Arabia. The situation in the middle east is what it is, which sucks. With that said, it may be a good option at this point to have a cold war between Saudi Arabia and Iran in order to maintain "balance" in the mideast between Sunni and Shia, a balance which, if disturbed, could easily escalate and start World War III. This is one of the rare times since 2003 that something the Bush administration is doing seems like a remotely good idea.

...outside of the war on islam.

However, that's the 800lb gorilla in the room. Many of the problems you attribute to Democrats pale in comparison to the problems this war brings. The problem of Iran pursuing nukes is because they're scared as shit of us invading them, and if John McCain is elected, rightly so. Also, this war on Islam has allowed a mindset of "conquer for oil" to persist in at least extreme parts of the neo-con ranks. This mindset obviously doesn't mesh with any efforts to phase out oil as our primary energy source (read: our involvement in the middle east cesspool and all the problems stemming from it) since many of these same neo-cons have their hands in big oil.

This is where Obama comes in. He plans on pulling out of Iraq and investing some of the money being dumped there into getting us off our perpetual oil addiction with his "Manhattan Project" approach to energy (read: getting us out of the middle east cesspool). With what Bush is doing right now by arming Saudi Arabia, he's unintentionally helping out Obama by opening up an avenue for us to withdraw. With Saudi Arabia armed with nukes, they could essentially take our place of keeping Iran out of Iraq (the only remotely plausible reason for us still being there), since the US and SA both share the same interests of a non-Iranian government next door.