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  • 88Mariner
    My dick is smaller
    • Nov 2006
    • 7128

    Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

    Why Is Bush Helping Saudi Arabia Build Nukes?

    By EDWARD J. MARKEY
    June 10, 2008

    Here's a quick geopolitical quiz: What country is three times the size of Texas and has more than 300 days of blazing sun a year? What country has the world's largest oil reserves resting below miles upon miles of sand? And what country is being given nuclear power, not solar, by President George W. Bush, even when the mere assumption of nuclear possession in its region has been known to provoke pre-emptive air strikes, even wars?

    If you answered Saudi Arabia to all of these questions, you're right.

    Last month, while the American people were becoming the personal ATMs of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was in Saudi Arabia signing away an even more valuable gift: nuclear technology. In a ceremony little-noticed in this country, Ms. Rice volunteered the U.S. to assist Saudi Arabia in developing nuclear reactors, training nuclear engineers, and constructing nuclear infrastructure. While oil breaks records at $130 per barrel or more, the American consumer is footing the bill for Saudi Arabia's nuclear ambitions.

    Saudi Arabia has poured money into developing its vast reserves of natural gas for domestic electricity production. It continues to invest in a national gas transportation pipeline and stepped-up exploration, building a solid foundation for domestic energy production that could meet its electricity needs for many decades. Nuclear energy, on the other hand, would require enormous investments in new infrastructure by a country with zero expertise in this complex technology.

    Have Ms. Rice, Mr. Bush or Saudi leaders looked skyward? The Saudi desert is under almost constant sunshine. If Mr. Bush wanted to help his friends in Riyadh diversify their energy portfolio, he should have offered solar panels, not nuclear plants.
    Saudi Arabia's interest in nuclear technology can only be explained by the dangerous politics of the Middle East. Saudi Arabia, a champion and kingpin of the Sunni Arab world, is deeply threatened by the rise of Shiite-ruled Iran.

    The two countries watch each other warily over the waters of the Persian Gulf, buying arms and waging war by proxy in Lebanon and Iraq. An Iranian nuclear weapon would radically alter the region's balance of power, and could prove to be the match that lights the tinderbox. By signing this agreement with the U.S., Saudi Arabia is warning Iran that two can play the nuclear game.

    In 2004, Vice President Dick Cheney said, "[Iran is] already sitting on an awful lot of oil and gas. No one can figure why they need nuclear, as well, to generate energy." Mr. Cheney got it right about Iran. But a potential Saudi nuclear program is just as suspicious. For a country with so much oil, gas and solar potential, importing expensive and dangerous nuclear power makes no economic sense.

    The Bush administration argues that Saudi Arabia can not be compared to Iran, because Riyadh said it won't develop uranium enrichment or spent-fuel reprocessing, the two most dangerous nuclear technologies. At a recent hearing before my Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman shrugged off concerns about potential Saudi misuse of nuclear assistance for a weapons program, saying simply: "I presume that the president has a good deal of confidence in the King and in the leadership of Saudi Arabia."

    That's not good enough. We would do well to remember that it was the U.S. who provided the original nuclear assistance to Iran under the Atoms for Peace program, before Iran's monarch was overthrown in the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Such an uprising in Saudi Arabia today could be at least as damaging to U.S. security.

    We've long known that America's addiction to oil pays for the spread of extremism. If this Bush nuclear deal moves forward, Saudi Arabia's petrodollars could flow to the dangerous expansion of nuclear technologies in the most volatile region of the world.

    While the scorching Saudi Arabian sun heats sand dunes instead of powering photovoltaic panels, millions of Americans will fork over $4 a gallon without realizing that their gas tank is fueling a nascent nuclear arms race.
    god. fucking. damnit.

    Not only do the Saudis have no need for nuclear power, it seems quite unwise to feed another Middle Eastern state's nuclear ambitions. But, hey, they're our friends, right?
    you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

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  • shosh
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    • Jun 2004
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    Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

    link + source?

    not disputing, just want to bookmark. thanks

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    • 88Mariner
      My dick is smaller
      • Nov 2006
      • 7128

      #3
      Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

      Wall Street Journal
      you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

      it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

      Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

      ----PEACE-----

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      • ddr
        DUDERZ get a life!!!
        • Jun 2004
        • 7006

        #4
        Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

        bush only cares about one thing.... Money.

        he has been exploiting out reliance on oil for all of his presidency and now that oil prices have gone up... he all of a sudden makes remarks (finally) that we need to stop our reliance on oil.

        he should have made this stance back in 2001 but nothing has been done about other sources of energy throughout his whole 7 years thus far. have to thank the japanese for forcing it on us.

        it is up in the air if a democrat or a repub will become president next year. oil prices going up in his last term coincidence? i think not.
        "pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" James

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        • 88Mariner
          My dick is smaller
          • Nov 2006
          • 7128

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          ^ yeah. you know why? b/c people think the government will get stuff done.

          private businesses have time and again proven themselves to be at the forefront of alternative technology: not the government.

          the more we make energy solutions the business of the government, the longer it will take to see such a solution.
          you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

          it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

          Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

          ----PEACE-----

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          • shosh
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            • Jun 2004
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            #6
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            ^^^ agreed, whoever is in power will look first and foremost to do things in their own interest, and then if there is any room in the interest of the country. this can apply for anyone, anywhere

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            • 88Mariner
              My dick is smaller
              • Nov 2006
              • 7128

              #7
              Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

              ^ then why support john mccain?
              you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

              it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

              Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

              ----PEACE-----

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              • shosh
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                • Jun 2004
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                Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

                Originally posted by 88Mariner
                ^ then why support john mccain?
                who else would i support? obama? im for ron paul, but he doesnt have a chance...

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                • 88Mariner
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                  • Nov 2006
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                  #9
                  Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

                  no he doesn't. but don't sacrifice your principles. voting for john mccain will enable the GOP to keep moving left, and shedding off thier layers of conservatism...whatever layers they have left.

                  I've actualy never met a ron paul supporter who would even consider voting mccain. Hell, paul himself seemed to be in some support of Obama in an interview i saw the other day....
                  you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                  it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                  Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                  ----PEACE-----

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                  • shosh
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2004
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                    #10
                    Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

                    Originally posted by 88Mariner
                    no he doesn't. but don't sacrifice your principles. voting for john mccain will enable the GOP to keep moving left, and shedding off thier layers of conservatism...whatever layers they have left.

                    I've actualy never met a ron paul supporter who would even consider voting mccain. Hell, paul himself seemed to be in some support of Obama in an interview i saw the other day....
                    i actually dont think bob barr is too bad, but i dont see him having a chance. i agree with what you are saying about mccain, but i really dont want to see obama take office.

                    going back to the original topic, i think its ridiculous we are helping one of the most oil rich countries with energy solutions...

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                    • ddr
                      DUDERZ get a life!!!
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 7006

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                      Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

                      Originally posted by shosh
                      i really dont want to see obama take office.
                      why?

                      i hate it when people make such strong statements without giving any reasons or examples.
                      "pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" James

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                      • shosh
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                        • Jun 2004
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                        Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

                        sorry, I had given some of my reasons in a bunch of other threads but i dont mind reiterating them:
                        - dont agree with his views on war. i think its very pussy like that he wants to go and sit down and have talks with terrorists, etc. im not saying we should invade every country, but what would have happened if we sat down and had a nice talk with Hitler.
                        - dont agree with his views on guns. 2nd amendment doesnt give us the right to bear arms. the wording states that our right to bear arms should not be infringed upon
                        - i do not favor the fact that he was backing rev wright for 20 years and only now that it is not favoring his campaign he denounced his former mentor, best friend, etc and resigned from the church
                        - i do not favor the way his wife, possible first lady, talked about the USA
                        - i dont think he has enough experience to show us what he can do. so far he hasnt accomplished much so for me it is all talk

                        these are just a few things, but they are some that i feel very very strongly about.

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                        • Jenks
                          I'm kind of a big deal.
                          • Jun 2004
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                          • 88Mariner
                            My dick is smaller
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 7128

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                            :
                            - dont agree with his views on war. i think its very pussy like that he wants to go and sit down and have talks with terrorists, etc. im not saying we should invade every country, but what would have happened if we sat down and had a nice talk with Hitler.
                            - that's a very leftist stance you take. President Wilson, a democrat, would be smiling in his grave if he read that. Conversely, Reagan talked with the Soviet Union (who posed such a greater threat to us that it's not even up for discussion), Nixon went to China, et al. Hell, Nixon was elected to end Vietnam. Again, talking is a conservative principle...acting without dialogue...not so much.

                            if you consider that McCain's only platform is to wage more wars, as the "war" president he will be...you begin to wonder if the guy even has a drop of...er..goldwater in his blood.

                            Get ready for the draft, mayng.....
                            you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                            it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                            Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                            ----PEACE-----

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                            • ddr
                              DUDERZ get a life!!!
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 7006

                              #15
                              Re: Why is Bush Helping the Saudis build Nukes?

                              Originally posted by 88Mariner
                              Get ready for the draft, mayng.....
                              yup.

                              longer this war goes on, the fewer marines we have out there... which is making the reality of a draft that much closer =\
                              "pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" James

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