VERY IMPORTANT: New Rule for posting Sets - NO FRISKY SETS ALLOWED

[shosh]

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despite your communication with Tom and sorting things out, you stole a banner from here and stuck it on your blog ridiculing [ms].....nice work.

you serious? WTF? srsly, this is getting ridiculous...

whenever an artist becomes increasingly more popular than they were before, they forget the reason they got where they are... to those fuck you. to those who respect their fans, props.

[Kamal]

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this is what made Tom contact him in the beginning

http://www.ingovogelmann.com/2008/06/09/dear-robbers/

nice thread title for people who share music, which is truly meant to be free for everyone.

The banner on his blog is down now. Was up for 12 hours from when I first saw it.

[shosh]

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lol... i rofled at his blog...

[thezzapper]

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ugly situation here. music is made to be experienced & shared. nuff said.

[vogelmann]

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despite your communication with Tom and sorting things out, you stole a banner from here and stuck it on your blog ridiculing [ms].....nice work.

In fact it was up for less than one hour. You are simply lying. I see the differences between you - Kamal - and Tom, now.

I personally keep on respecting Tom for his straight and open communication with me.

I don't need listeners like the ones from here and I give nothing on your "philosophy" here. YOU are not the ones who make ANY artist big, YOU are not the ones who promote, YOU are not the ones who support.

This is my final post here. I have much more important things to do. At least respect that this is MY opinion, not the one of Faisal nor friskyRadio with its staff, thousands of listeners, supporters and true fans.

I love doing my work for them and with them. You don't have an idea what that means.

If you want to hate me and throw shit into faces, do it. I really have no problem with it.

[Kamal]

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even if it was for 1 hour as you claim, you admit that you put it on your blog AFTER you spoke to Tom.

And what was your pretty little message on it voglemann ? didn't it say something like

"Silly Little Kids (inscribed above the MercuryServer was here text)" with "This graphic has been stolen from mercuryserver without permission and without asking the graphic designer or photographer" or some gibberish like that written in the footer?

We never "claim" to be the ones to make or break anyone, never have and never will. You hallucinate ideas only you are capable of justifying and it ticks me off when you express it in childish retaliation.

[res0nat0r]

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I don't need listeners like the ones from here and I give nothing on your "philosophy" here. YOU are not the ones who make ANY artist big, YOU are not the ones who promote, YOU are not the ones who support.

I wouldn't say this is true. Off the top of my head I know I never heard anything from Terry Lee Brown Jr or The Timewriter before I picked up some sets from these guys online via this site. Now I have tracked down about 5 of TLB's back Cafe mixes and at least two discs from The Timewriter.

I bought these legally, and I would say that this is supporting artists. If people ask me examples of the type of music I like and want an intro I would suggest something like this, and I know for sure that this is support and promotion.


I dont know if this thread should be closed before the flame war heats up much more and things just get worse overall....

[shosh]

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^ i think his reference to making or breaking someone was related to my post. i never claimed that me, you, or [ms] is the main driving force making someone big, its everyone, the masses. and i also didnt refer to just djs or prog djs or even ingo, but to any and all artists in general.

he's retarded kamal. looks like this is a relationship (w/ frisky) that wont be salvaged, it sucks, but we'll live.

[the sun the sea]

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I don't need listeners like the ones from here and I give nothing on your "philosophy" here. YOU are not the ones who make ANY artist big, YOU are not the ones who promote, YOU are not the ones who support.

that's not true, if it wasn't for MS, Super Greg would not even exist:

[ribbario]

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I think this is all a big misunderstanding and tomorrow-everything will get better
I hope you all will have good conversations with each other ...I Hope that everything will be ok soon !
OK , I'm drunk right now..

Peace !

[AntonyM]

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Yeah, let's move on. There are so many great sets on MS already. It is nothing but bad PR for Frisky and for this Vogelmann pompous, self inflated, so called artist, it goes back to living in an era where people create as a career choice, good riddance to them both.

[Gatz]

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OK , I'm drunk right now..

Peace !

ribs is drunk.

[Funky Dredd]

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I don't need listeners like the ones from here and I give nothing on your "philosophy" here. YOU are not the ones who make ANY artist big, YOU are not the ones who promote, YOU are not the ones who support.

And why don't you need listeners like the one's from here? True we are not going to make any artist "big" but we are all in this music community together and word of mouth does spread pretty fast because if we are talking then we are promoting in some form and in that form we are supporting.
I've been listening to electronic music in some form since the early 80's and started going to clubs around 1985. I've seen a lot of DJ's come and go and have even played with quite a few of the "Big" names way before they were "Big", and I can pretty much tell you that support is where it is at and with comments such as this they can harm you. Take Chris Fortier for instance, he's worked hard at his trade, no doubt about that and he's played at places that he didn't like (MARZ) but he was there every Saturday rolling out the tunes to people like me who would bring friends just to show them that this guy was talented and knew he was going places. In turn those friends would bring other friends and so forth and so on.
It's true that it takes a lot of hard work to get noticed and I can respect that (really I can), but it's also true that the "little people" that make their way to the clubs to see "Big" names are there because of some form of support. They had to hear your stuff somehow, either by stumbling into your set from a message board such as this and reading the comments that other individuals have left. Or they have a friend who recommended a set that you did. Once again this comes back to supporting you the artist, so in hindsight do you really want to make a statement such as this?
You can call me an old washed up DJ if you would like, that's fine with me. But it's statements such as this that give other DJ's the break they need because people don't like the comments you just made. I for one will be sure to pass up something with your name on it.

[spyros]

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now mr.ingo are you fool or are you playing the fool??
well mr.ingo i'll tell you something mate.if you dont want to have your music shared(and im not saying stolen because its not) just stay in your bedroom and have a mix there.imo when you play your set on an online radio station,im sorry mate but youre a fool to beleive that people will not share it afterwards.and if you think that sharing music is not support for the artists go and ask a bigger name.you might learn something from him. i dont think anyone shared a set here on anywhere else, he put his own name on it or changed the place it was made or the date or whatever you might think! get over it! i would like to see what you would say if after your sets nobody wanted them. that would be a problem.
but having fans appreciating the music expecting like xmas the next show and sharing the sets straight away because they are so happy with the mix and impatient at the same time, while giving proper credit to the artist,the location,the show,the date, even saying below the title "what a f***n great set from x" ,then not only its not a problem but its a f****n dream for every artist!! appreciation is the key. and true fans know when to appreciate and when to throw in the bin!!

[chuckc]

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this is horrible news. first losing hernans and martin garcia sets, now we are going to miss out on sudam show and destinations.... really going to miss hearing kintar and rex music. i have become a huge fan of them and shiva.