Progressive [House] Music: Status

[the sun the sea]

Re: Progressive [House] Music: Status

as long as Shiva and Kintar & Rex keep producing the amazing sets they do - then I'll be happy.

same here.

[Shiva]

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Thank you so much for the sweet comments & support (Kintar & Rex + I).

As far as Lebanon is concerned, I am facing same issues as well; Other genres have been taking over the local EDM market as well. Now we are in the high season of beach parties and EDM events: most of the time I find myself constraint to be more "aggressive" (and less demanding) in order to secure myself gigs here and there: sometimes I even find myself playing in Trance events (warm-up/closing or afterhours sets).

Luckily for me, there is still a "faithful" progressive crowd that tend to show-up at my gigs, but it's a minority. For sure being a djane & model helps me in securing gigs, but still sometimes I have to be flexible in order to secure my spot in an event.

It is hard for progressive djs to survive next to other genres, this is more than obvious.
I took it upon myself to play progressive and expand it in the region where also western music is not listened by all in the first place; and when it gets to EDM I keep in mind that not everyone understands house-base music, especially the progressive one.

As for the income aspect of it, it never crossed my mind to get huge expectations from the djing industry, my modeling career is my main financial drive... so I'm just doing this for the passion of djing and for the love of progressive house music.

I am so happy to be part of [ms] coz I have the joy to find a progressive audience here, and a demanding one! Damn glad to be at the right place...!

I would rather quit djing than change my style of music...
Hell yea, I was born Progressive and I will die Progressive!!!

[AntonyM]

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As far as what Alican & Sonar, Polefolder, Greg Benz and a good deal of South American DJ's are playing at the moment. I think there has been an underground resurgence in the music, but maybe that is due to the fact that I have been listening to it more than the other stuff, just for something different from the current tech craze. which IMO peaked somewhere in 2006, granted some artist are clubbing up the tech sound a bit for big room feel, making it more appealing, the tech stuff is now mainstream so why not start pushing the prog stuff in places like MS, in another 6 yrs prog will make a return, but for now its Kaskade, Dirty South, Deadmau5, and Morillos in Vegas all of which are currently slated for Labor Day Weekend.

[Steve Graham]

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Thank you so much for the sweet comments & support (Kintar & Rex + I).

As far as Lebanon is concerned, I am facing same issues as well; Other genres have been taking over the local EDM market as well. Now we are in the high season of beach parties and EDM events: most of the time I find myself constraint to be more "aggressive" (and less demanding) in order to secure myself gigs here and there: sometimes I even find myself playing in Trance events (warm-up/closing or afterhours sets).

Luckily for me, there is still a "faithful" progressive crowd that tend to show-up at my gigs, but it's a minority. For sure being a djane & model helps me in securing gigs, but still sometimes I have to be flexible in order to secure my spot in an event.

It is hard for progressive djs to survive next to other genres, this is more than obvious.
I took it upon myself to play progressive and expand it in the region where also western music is not listened by all in the first place; and when it gets to EDM I keep in mind that not everyone understands house-base music, especially the progressive one.

I would rather quit djing than change my style of music...
Hell yea, I was born Progressive and I will die Progressive!!!

Around here the masses go to whatever place is fashionable to be "seen" at.. regardless of the music or dj. Though there is one club that books decent dj's, but Three started the night so of course it is more on the progressive/techy/minimal side of things. The thing is the people that frequent this night, rarely go out anywhere else, its almost like a little click than true supporters of the scene.
Most other places play hip hop, and are packed night and night out so the owners wont give anything else a chance, and why would they..

A few other venues play house, if you can call it that, but its all the obvious banging electro top 40 remix mainstream mash up house, they advertise it as "miami house" and the bouncers and club goers think they are in south beach and wouldnt know real house or prog if you locked them in a room and looped it for 24 hours.. case in point, a girl in my office knows I dj and keeps asking me to bring her music by djs that make "girly techno".. im tempted to bring her a cd with actual techno on it and se what she says, lol

then the venues that have these "dj's" and I use the term loosely, more like walking juke boxes and on the flyers it says dj so and so spinning the best in house, hip hop, mash up, top 40.. really? lol, i highly doubt its the best.

for the area I live, and thats all I can really comment on, progressive or deep house is just too intricate and intelligent for most people to grasp.. It's like people have ADD and need a new song every 2 minutes, or need somethiing they can sing to or they cant dance or they lose interest.

[DIDI]

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Abyssmal in Singapore but they never knew what's good for them anyway.

In Melbourne Australia, there are one or two prog nights going on but a lot of the DJs I know of have jumped on the minimal shitwagon.

Overall I'd say the prog as we knew it, be it dark or melodic or whatever, is dead as dead. There was a shortlived resuscitation when people like Kosmas showed up but that's it.

We just have to sit tight and hope it comes back. But in the mean time I'm digging the deep minimal stuff.

I'm actually holding out a bit of hope at the moment! A couple of producers I know are producing prog. Harley Augustine and Paul Beynon. Jimmy Van M has just picked up one of Harley's tunes. It's pure melodic prog. Some of Paul's stuff is amazing. I think there is a hunger for music with guts!! Minimal is like an entree, not very filling.

[DIDI]

Re: Progressive [House] Music: Status

Thank you so much for the sweet comments & support (Kintar & Rex + I).

As far as Lebanon is concerned, I am facing same issues as well; Other genres have been taking over the local EDM market as well. Now we are in the high season of beach parties and EDM events: most of the time I find myself constraint to be more "aggressive" (and less demanding) in order to secure myself gigs here and there: sometimes I even find myself playing in Trance events (warm-up/closing or afterhours sets).

Luckily for me, there is still a "faithful" progressive crowd that tend to show-up at my gigs, but it's a minority. For sure being a djane & model helps me in securing gigs, but still sometimes I have to be flexible in order to secure my spot in an event.

It is hard for progressive djs to survive next to other genres, this is more than obvious.
I took it upon myself to play progressive and expand it in the region where also western music is not listened by all in the first place; and when it gets to EDM I keep in mind that not everyone understands house-base music, especially the progressive one.

As for the income aspect of it, it never crossed my mind to get huge expectations from the djing industry, my modeling career is my main financial drive... so I'm just doing this for the passion of djing and for the love of progressive house music.

I am so happy to be part of [ms] coz I have the joy to find a progressive audience here, and a demanding one! Damn glad to be at the right place...!

I would rather quit djing than change my style of music...
Hell yea, I was born Progressive and I will die Progressive!!!

[feather]

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TBH I'm not too fussed with this prog problem. I miss it and I'm nostalgic about it when I listen to old mixes, but when I hear the current trend, I just find new sounds that intrigue me. Even in the old prog days, there're some boring shit that were pretty formulaic--people in the mp3 scene used to refer to them as Bog Standard Progressiv Fodder

What I admire are some of the old guard who jumped on the minimal wagon but seem to be doing it their way, and there're always folks like Nick Warren around who're unashamedly progressive.

[Aleks_B]

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Here in Toronto prog has come and gone already for a at least 2 full years now. The biggest trends here are "Electro House" and mashup styles and Minimal Techno. Real american house music has always had a stronghold here too, due to our proximity to Chicago and Detriot.

Its funny to read what you all have posted about your town's scene and how all these trends are global now. Proof of Globalization i suppose.

[DIDI]

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It's all subjective of course but I think there is quite a bit of newer music around with a proggish sound . After all progressive should be moving along. I like some of the techy stuff, a little trance, love the odd bit of psy. But good prog is just amazing. !!
What is a shame is the old guard who feel they have to play minimal in a set. The whole feel of a set changes! I really don't like what I recognise as minimal. It's total shit to dance to!!

We may get a tour from Nick Warren seeing he is doing another GU

[feather]

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What is a shame is the old guard who feel they have to play minimal in a set. The whole feel of a set changes!

Hybrid

I think the minimal stuff you find boring are like, probably Magda or Villalobos

Actually Sunny gets pretty minimal back in the day when it was really deep and dark. Like the stuff Gab Oliver played. But the bass was always punchy and groovy.

[DIDI]

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^^^ True on all counts. If it's deep and dark I don't recognise it as minimal I've got a Sunny around of his somewhere. Which reminds me I haven't seen anything of Ozzie LA around lately. God I hope he hasn't retired as well. I love his music !! I couldn't believe he kept me dancing after Hernan's epic set last year!

[GregWhelan]

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Personally I am worried. I downloaded about 5 sets this week from these very forums and they were all poor. No direction or anything. Hadn't heard of a sngle track, and no wonder. People are trying to outdo each other with the latest tracks and it's all nonsense.

Minimal is woeful. Maybe it;s ok in places, but how many tracks from the past 2 years will go down in the annals of EDM?

[simonr]

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Very few Greg ... but at least the likes of Hernan are playing quality house with a progressive influence.

[GregWhelan]

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^ Yes, but you know what, even he seems to be taking a direction that I'm not feeling recently. I didn't enjoy his EM, nor that recent 2 hour Spanish set on MS.

There are very few 'songs' about it seems. Like I said, very few tracks from the past 2 years, and more, can be regarded as 'classics' in the way that Xpander, Heaven Scent etc are.

[Cj Tari]

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i think its all about image and the current trends, i remember some years ago, Progressive was the style that used to be "mainstream", and before that, Trance was the style of choice, right now its all about the minimal, just give it some time and minimal is gonna be debunked by another genre thats gonna be setting new trends.

I remember some time ago, since im not that fond of progressive, i used to complaint a lot on how everything was related to progressive, i remember how all events that would be booked here in town had to do with progressive djs, so i always had a hard time getting booked; now, its all about the minimal, all dj's that are being booked are minimal related.

so, i would say, dont worry, this is just a trend that is enjoying of its moment.