Obama in Europe

[shosh]

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^^^

thats kind of how i see it and it bugs me that theyre still the ones bitching.
here's a little analogy:
take a white person, typical white trash: drives shitty shitty shitty car, lives in a trailer, eats shit, has no job, lives off welfare, dresses like shit. now, how many white people want to be like that person or think that's cool?
now take a person of color: drives a shitty shitty car, lives in the ghetto, in the ghetto (insert cartman voice), eats shit, lives off welfare and foodstamps, dresses with jeans to their ankles, do-tags, etc. now, how many black people want to be like that person or think that's cool?
im not racist or trying to be racist, but im sick and tired of people complaining when they arent doing shit. you want a better life for yourself, go get it, dont wait for the govt to give it to you while you are getting high off your ass and living off our taxes.

*preparing to get roasted

[88Mariner]

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^ dude, first, there's nothing wrong with getting high. in fact, i would recommend it to you.

second, you also have to consider that the old fucks who collect welfare are doing the same thing at 500 bnillion per anum under the calling of 'social security'.

[toasty]

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ok, i'll save my dissent (except for the fact that there are twice as many impoverished whites than there are impoverished blacks, 2:1 basically), and ask....what exactly could republicans (or libertarians) do to engage the self-contained black community?

In 2006, which were the most recent numbers I could find, the US was approximately 13% black, 74% white. If poverty wasn't disproportionately affecting blacks, you'd expect the ratio to be about 5:1. There are lots more white people to start with, so it's not particularly surprising to find them at the top of pretty much any list like this.

What can republicans do to court the black vote? Probably anything would be a good start. Head over the McCain website or the GOP site and direct me to the page where they discuss how they intend to address the issue of poverty in this nation. People don't even ask republicans what their position on poverty is anymore, because you know the answer is so obvious.

Also, Bush declined invitations to speak to the NAACP for the first 6 years of his presidency. It's not as if he declined an invite from Farrakhan (sp?) to address the Nation of Islam, this is a large and well-established group that is dedicated exclusively to issues germane to African Americans. He couldn't have been more clear about his lack of desire to win over black voters if he'd mooned them.

[shosh]

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^ dude, first, there's nothing wrong with getting high. in fact, i would recommend it to you.

second, you also have to consider that the old fucks who collect welfare are doing the same thing at 500 bnillion per anum under the calling of 'social security'.

ive done my share of getting high and other shit, now i prefer to keep my intelligence. what i meant by that is the ones who just sit around all day getting high and being ghetto instead of getting a job and/or an education.

second, most of those old people had jobs in their youth and contributed to social security. im referring to those who all they do is live off the government when they could be getting and education and/or a job

either you knew what i meant by those and chose to bring out the points for the lulz or you're too high to comprehend my points.

In 2006, which were the most recent numbers I could find, the US was approximately 13% black, 74% white. If poverty wasn't disproportionately affecting blacks, you'd expect the ratio to be about 5:1. There are lots more white people to start with, so it's not particularly surprising to find them at the top of pretty much any list like this.

What can republicans do to court the black vote? Probably anything would be a good start. Head over the McCain website or the GOP site and direct me to the page where they discuss how they intend to address the issue of poverty in this nation. People don't even ask republicans what their position on poverty is anymore, because you know the answer is so obvious.

Also, Bush declined invitations to speak to the NAACP for the first 6 years of his presidency. It's not as if he declined an invite from Farrakhan (sp?) to address the Nation of Islam, this is a large and well-established group that is dedicated exclusively to issues germane to African Americans. He couldn't have been more clear about his lack of desire to win over black voters if he'd mooned them.

tbh, i dont think he should go speak in front of the naacp... first because just speaking in front of them doesnt do shit, except warm their hearts up, and second, until the naacp, farrakhan, jackson, sharpton stop their shit, they should all be ignored (by their shit i mean all the racist cries in the media, etc)

[ddr]

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In 2006, which were the most recent numbers I could find, the US was approximately 13% black, 74% white. If poverty wasn't disproportionately affecting blacks, you'd expect the ratio to be about 5:1. There are lots more white people to start with, so it's not particularly surprising to find them at the top of pretty much any list like this.

What can republicans do to court the black vote? Probably anything would be a good start. Head over the McCain website or the GOP site and direct me to the page where they discuss how they intend to address the issue of poverty in this nation. People don't even ask republicans what their position on poverty is anymore, because you know the answer is so obvious.

Also, Bush declined invitations to speak to the NAACP for the first 6 years of his presidency. It's not as if he declined an invite from Farrakhan (sp?) to address the Nation of Islam, this is a large and well-established group that is dedicated exclusively to issues germane to African Americans. He couldn't have been more clear about his lack of desire to win over black voters if he'd mooned them.

This new perverted Republicanism that Bush and his goons have created... the only thing they care about is money. it cant be more obvious. they would sacrifice thousands of American lives just to further their own bank account... which they have done. it is sickening.

[shosh]

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This new perverted Republicanism that Bush and his goons have created... the only thing they care about is money. it cant be more obvious. they would sacrifice thousands of American lives just to further their own bank account... which they have done. it is sickening.

come on dude, do you really think any politician or bureaucrat cares about anything else but money? thats all they do when they are in power and after they are in power, perpetuate their wealth... democrats or republicans alike. dont dont start jumping and telling me that you know obama cares about you because i assure you he cares first about his wallet, and so does mccain. nobody gets into politics just because they want to make the world or country or county or city or state, etc better, theyre all in it because they are money and power hungry.
and before you reference the few exceptions, remember that all exceptions do is confirm the rules

[toasty]

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now i prefer to keep my intelligence.

[toasty]

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tbh, i dont think he should go speak in front of the naacp... first because just speaking in front of them doesnt do shit, except warm their hearts up, and second, until the naacp, farrakhan, jackson, sharpton stop their shit, they should all be ignored (by their shit i mean all the racist cries in the media, etc)

jackson and sharpton are both divisive figures and farrakhan is what he is, obviously, but I don't put the NAACP in that same category.

[shosh]

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jackson and sharpton are both divisive figures and farrakhan is what he is, obviously, but I don't put the NAACP in that same category.

imo naacp, glaad, peta, and the such they are all pretty much inthe same caregory with those guys too... but again thats IMO

[88Mariner]

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for the lulz. if you wanted to know.

[MJDub]

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lulz

[shosh]

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for the lulz. if you wanted to know.

lulz

[88Mariner]

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^ DUDE!
to hijack the thread


at the law office today we were tossing around ideas for a new batman movie, and i said hugo weaving would make the most excellent Riddler.

thoughts???

[toasty]

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I'm just saying that the outreach between the GOP and the black community is shit, and that is not a new phenomenon. A lot of blacks are voting for Obama, but most of these voters would have voted for whomever the Democratic candidate was. FFS, McCain voted against making MLK's birthday a holiday -- he's since changed his position on that, but that's not exactly the best way to ingratiate yourself to African-Americans. If the GOP has such great ideas for the black community, they need to work on spreading that message, because it isn't getting through.

McCain was actually kind enough to hammer home this point for me at a recent press availability. Dude, at least spit out something -- stall, do whatever you've got to do, but don't just stand there silently.

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/08/what-happened.html

Know why he didn't have an answer ready to go? Because people don't expect republicans to do anything for the black community except hand them a set of bootstraps. No need to have that information anywhere near the front of the gray matter for easy access.

...And if you give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he wasn't honestly struggling to think of something that he's done for blacks, then he looks like a doddering old man. Either way, not a great moment for him.

In fairness, McCain did ultimately answer the question. Unfortunately, it was demonstrably false.

[toasty]

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Yet more evidence that the GOP needs to work on its courting of black voters:

http://wonkette.com/401854/black-mccain-supporter-cannot-buy-black-men-for-mccain-shirt-because-there-is-no-such-thing