Chicks Can't Mix

[Dhar_2]

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^ it's about proving this thread wrong, that chicks CAN mix!

next thing u know u'll be championing the mix skills and tune selection of above said muppets!!!

thin ice my dear, very thin ice!!!











means a wet t-shirt contest

[Life on Other Planets AKA Johns]

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yea i defo think there are loads of females who can't mix and get up on stage and prance about looking beautiful and trainwrecking, but unfortunately that mostly has to do with what WE buy into. a lot of people buy into a beautiful girl djing because its a beautiful girl djing. a lot of people won't care what they play like, what music they are playing, etc.

i've been going around and around with this in my head... can you name a guy dj who has gotten huge by being hot? the only one i can think of is sasha, and thats not really true because he could mix before he was a posterboy dj. and even if that person, boy or girl is hot, they still need to have something to back it up. maybe they weren't good at the start but they've gotten better.

about anja, i really don't think we can say much about her getting to where she is solely on being a female. she is a really great producer. she makes her own music and has her own label. she works hard in the industry. another would be cassy, she works hard and makes her own music. there are lots of us out there now and there are more females working in the industry than there ever has been.

if you guys like breaks really check out janette slack. she is amazing. there are girls out there who fucking kill it.

well i have to agree with u there Chloe. Anja's track's are superb. So are Magada's, Chloe's, Cassy, Ellen's.. If u ask me the females make fantastic track's for us males to play out

[Yao]

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I simple don't buy into this generalisation Greg, I'm sorry. Too many top-DJ's in general that are complete dipshits behind the decks, too many really good DJ's that may never make it to the position they are entitled to (behind the decks in a cool club).

There is this phenomenon with those half-dressed candy girl DJ chicks, such as Portia whatever and more of those, but that's a completely different league IMO.

[TheMightyGreg]

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Ok so think of your top 5 male dj's - I expect on the whole you'd think they were pretty sharp behind the decks and have a few favourite sets of theirs which are more ore less flawless...now think of your top 5 female dj's - can you say the same thing about them. I would say my favourite 5 female spinners are Ellen Allien, Magda, Smokin' Jo, Monika Kruse and Chloe - and with the notebale exception of Chloe all of the sets I've enjoyed from these gals both live and pre-recorded are poorly mixed.

In no way am i saying that there are no chicks who can mix - that would be ridiculously arrogant and unfair. I'm just sayingthat in my experience those that i have heard have been well below the male equivalent with comparable levels of experience and exposure.

If i'm missing a shitload of female talent (and I'm sure I am) please point me in it's direction...I' would genuinly like to be proved utterly wrong

[AndyH]

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Ok so think of your top 5 male dj's - I expect on the whole you'd think they were pretty sharp behind the decks and have a few favourite sets of theirs which are more ore less flawless...now think of your top 5 female dj's - can you say the same thing about them. I would say my favourite 5 female spinners are Ellen Allien, Magda, Smokin' Jo, Monika Kruse and Chloe - and with the notebale exception of Chloe all of the sets I've enjoyed from these gals both live and pre-recorded are poorly mixed.

Im sitting on the fence on this one, but good point sir! (although u clearly need to listen to more Shiva sets)

Maybe its coz DJanes are relatively new (in force anyway) and despite the balance changing, there are still way more male DJs and therefore the quality of the top boys mixing will obv be higher than the top gals.. ?

[feather]

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Not too sure about the top 5 DJs analogy because statistics is working against the women here ... If you had a population of 1,000 male DJs, the top 5 would naturally have some 'standards,' it's a natural progression up the pyramid from the bottom 1,000 ... while comparitively if you had a population of 100 female DJs, you will have a more difficult time finding the same top 5 that matches your perception of the male top 5 ...

err wouldn't you?

[AndyH]

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LMAO, i wrote out basically the same thing at great length and then deleted virtualyl all of it..!!

[Tatanka]

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^ Yeah, Chloe is fucking quality and her annivesary mix is on heavy rotation in my office. Let's clarify - i'm not saying that there are no good female DJ's - of course there are, it's just that those i mentioned and other's besides are supposedly at the top of thier game, but the way they mix the majority of thier sets suggests they perhaps shouldn't be.

Agreed but you have to recognize the flip side as well...I've seen/heard some wack ass "male" sets. Most of which I was forced to pay for. Nonethless, given the female to male mixer ratio I'd say that it's pretty even.

[TheMightyGreg]

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Not too sure about the top 5 DJs analogy because statistics is working against the women here ... If you had a population of 1,000 male DJs, the top 5 would naturally have some 'standards,' it's a natural progression up the pyramid from the bottom 1,000 ... while comparitively if you had a population of 100 female DJs, you will have a more difficult time finding the same top 5 that matches your perception of the male top 5 ...

err wouldn't you?

This is a very good point, although it doens't completely overrule mine. This would be true using the figures you do, but there are clearly more than 100 female DJ's in the world. Therefore if we stick to purely statistical measurement, you would expect that out of all the female dj's in the world (several thousands proffessionals I would estimate) you would be able to select 5 who could put the majority of thier mixes together without creating an unpleasant listening experience. All I'm saying is that I can't, and while i am by no means claiming to be an authority on the subject, I think i have enough experience of listening to EDM to be able to consider my opinion at least some way to being valid

[Lorn]

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Top 5 female dj's.

1. Chloe
2. Shiva
3. Anna Maria X
4. Ariel Cybana
5. Sandra Collins

Have been completely satisfied with the mixing of all the above. Works for me.

[Shiva]

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Top 5 female dj's.

1. Chloe
2. Shiva
3. Anna Maria X
4. Ariel Cybana
5. Sandra Collins

Have been completely satisfied with the mixing of all the above. Works for me.

^ Tnx Lorn, I am flattered...

Well, classification is a lot about taste as well, so the spectrum is very wide.

[Jenks]

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sonja moonear ownz

not only the best female dj i've ever heard, but one of the best period.

[Steve Graham]

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go on chicky.

that is my favorite mixer in the world. its a beautiful baby.

I like the Xone also, but I admit it took a bit of getting used to after using Pioneer.. especially the rotary.. I had a similar experience going into a club and seeing a Rane rack mount mixer for the first time also with rotary.. now that mixer was a piece of shite.

as far as the topic of the thread, I'm staying out of it.. a dj can either mix/programme/beat match or they cant, gender has fuck all to do with it

[TheMightyGreg]

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as far as the topic of the thread, I'm staying out of it.. a dj can either mix/programme/beat match or they cant, gender has fuck all to do with it

Lol...how is that staying out of it!?

[Steve Graham]

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ok, starting... NOW