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  • superdave
    Platinum Poster
    • Jun 2004
    • 1366

    #16
    Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

    Originally posted by Miroslav
    ^^^ I suppose they do care. But they're all missing the boat, too
    Maybe, but just proves to me that everyone has a different vantage point how they see things.
    Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte

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    • DIDI
      Aussie Pest
      • Nov 2004
      • 16844

      #17
      Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

      Interestingly I think he did the right thing lying. Everytime I see a politician "confessing" with his loyal wife standing by him, I feel ill for the poor wife. It is so humiliating. It should be something between the husband and wife, not the world! When I saw the title of this thread I was actually dismayed that Edwards would do the confession thing to his wife. Reading that whole article it looks to me as though they both handled themselves the way they thought best. The only part of the article that annoyed me was the reference to God!

      Btw She was in remission when he had the affair.

      Huge lols at the guys in here that are going to be totally faithfull for their whole lives
      Originally posted by TheVrk
      it IS incredible isn't it??
      STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
      Simply does not get any better than Hernan
      The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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      • Miroslav
        WHOA I can change this!1!
        • Apr 2006
        • 4122

        #18
        Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

        Originally posted by DIDI
        Everytime I see a politician "confessing" with his loyal wife standing by him, I feel ill for the poor wife. It is so humiliating.
        I only kinda do. They are grown women. No one really forced them to stand there next to their moron husbands like a deer in the headlights; they chose to do so.
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        • DIDI
          Aussie Pest
          • Nov 2004
          • 16844

          #19
          Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

          Originally posted by Miroslav
          I only kinda do. They are grown women. No one really forced them to stand there next to their moron husbands like a deer in the headlights; they chose to do so.
          They really don't have any good alternatives Even if they are not there it would still be pretty humiliating. It the confessing bit I hate more than the wives actually being there. Deer in the headlights is right!!
          Originally posted by TheVrk
          it IS incredible isn't it??
          STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
          Simply does not get any better than Hernan
          The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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          • Miroslav
            WHOA I can change this!1!
            • Apr 2006
            • 4122

            #20
            Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

            Originally posted by DIDI
            They really don't have any good alternatives
            They could tell him to go get his whore to stand up there with him. Then they could pack up, take the kids, and head for greener pastures. Later send divorce papers.

            But don't feel all that sorry for them; there is a reason why they don't do that. These are generally extremely powerful women who know the political and financial value of their marriage, even if it is a sham. And so they make a pragmatic business deal. Why else do you think that Hillary stood by Bill after he got caught?
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            • DIDI
              Aussie Pest
              • Nov 2004
              • 16844

              #21
              Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

              Originally posted by Miroslav
              They could tell him to go get his whore to stand up there with him. Then they could pack up, take the kids, and head for greener pastures. Later send divorce papers.

              But don't feel all that sorry for them; there is a reason why they don't do that. These are generally extremely powerful women who know the political and financial value of their marriage, even if it is a sham. And so they make a pragmatic business deal. Why else do you think that Hillary stood by Bill after he got caught?
              While I agree with you about Hilary Do you really think those are good alternatives?? At least some of them would actually love their husbands.
              I know, I'm a sentimental fool
              Originally posted by TheVrk
              it IS incredible isn't it??
              STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
              Simply does not get any better than Hernan
              The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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              • toasty
                Sir Toastiness
                • Jun 2004
                • 6585

                #22
                Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

                Originally posted by 88Mariner
                ah. so you believe our morals are derivative of religion, which is to say, that of long dead old fucks with power and money. brill. i. ant.

                toasty: he may be a dick, but immoral?

                me? I would go sleeping around. but still, my own morality is my own decision based on my own beliefs and principles.

                as far as i can tell, it isn't against the law.
                I don't view morality as being derivative of religion or legality, I view it as stemming from my own personal sense of right and wrong -- there are plenty of things that would be prohibited by the law and/or Bible that I view as 100% OK. With that in mind, one person's immoral is another person's honky-dory. For me, I don't know if I attribute it to my moral code or whatever, but for a whole host of different reasons, I would not have done that.

                To each their own, though, I suppose.

                And BTW, I've been out of town and haven't read through the whole thread yet so someone may have already mentioned this, but WTF was he thinking from a political standpoint? That dude could have been the Democratic nominee for president, and if this had come out, the Dems would be completely and utterly fucked.

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                • day_for_night
                  Are you Kidding me??
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 4127

                  #23
                  Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

                  Originally posted by 88Mariner
                  ah. so you believe our morals are derivative of religion, which is to say, that of long dead old fucks with power and money. brill. i. ant.

                  toasty: he may be a dick, but immoral?

                  me? I would go sleeping around. but still, my own morality is my own decision based on my own beliefs and principles.

                  as far as i can tell, it isn't against the law.

                  it may not be against the law, but if you say the vows then you don't get to have an affair. its that simple...

                  people seem to forget very quickly what they agree to on their wedding day.

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                  • 88Mariner
                    My dick is smaller
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 7128

                    #24
                    Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

                    ^this is why marriage is utter bullshit. it's all about luck. not love.

                    seriously, if marriage didn't exist today, you know that nobody would invent it because "i want to get into a contract with another man/woman and then get the government and the church involved as well". thanks for the laugh tho.
                    you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

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                    • day_for_night
                      Are you Kidding me??
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 4127

                      #25
                      Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

                      doesn't matter if its bs or not, the guy signed up for it. he's a grown adult...was there something about the contract he didn't get?

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                      • 88Mariner
                        My dick is smaller
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 7128

                        #26
                        Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

                        not 'about' the contract, but perhaps something 'in' the contract he didn't get.
                        you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

                        it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

                        Am I somewhere....in the corners of your mind....

                        ----PEACE-----

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                        • Miroslav
                          WHOA I can change this!1!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 4122

                          #27
                          Re: John Edwards Admits to Affair

                          Originally posted by 88Mariner
                          ^this is why marriage is utter bullshit. it's all about luck. not love.

                          seriously, if marriage didn't exist today, you know that nobody would invent it because "i want to get into a contract with another man/woman and then get the government and the church involved as well". thanks for the laugh tho.
                          Most people in love do eventually want serious commitment from their partner. And they want that commitment to be there through sickness and in health, in good times and in bad, etc. - not just when they are 21 and look hot. And it takes on an even stronger meaning if kids are going to be in the picture. Yes, luck plays a role and things don't always work out...but for most people, love is not just an infatuation, but also a learned, practiced, and committed behavior.

                          You can call this commitment "marriage" or whatever else you want. But it is part of human nature and people will always seek it out one way or another.

                          Also, to digress even further... re: Morality -

                          You may be free to screw other women while your committed partner is bedridden with cancer, and you can define it as whatever personal "morality" you wish - but just accept that you are not free from the consequences of doing so. You will end up having to reconcile your own "morality" back to society as a whole for a simple reason: you live as a part of society, and most of society does not solely define morality on the basis of their own personal preferences, but also on the basis of common social norms. And so your ex-partner and others around you will rightfully shun you for your behavior...because most of us still believe in the Golden Rule.

                          Moral relativism: sounds cool on paper, works poorly in practice - unless you either conform your "morality" to key common social norms, or decide to become a hermit.
                          Last edited by Miroslav; August 12, 2008, 07:39:24 PM.
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