Afterhours online....new trend?

[unkownartist]

Re: Afterhours online....new trend?

@ Red: Do you know how frustrated alcoholics are, have you any idea? Do you know what kinda struggle it is to be alcoholic? Having few doobs or popping an e from time to time has never caused frustrations as much as alcohol did, it's not even comparable! Also, you can't generalize the attitude towards soft drugs just by basing it on one person's bad experience he might have had with it...just look around you.

my fathers a recovering alcoholic ( well i say recovering, he's not succeeding very well lol )....hey ..... boobs....best things on the planet lol i love them lol, but u then take it from a different light...there are 2 ways this can go, if u take the "rokking boobage" thread on this forum, now if all the guys on this board suddenly spent 99% of there time in that post the female memebers here would all start to call us perverts "call us sick" and other crazy things like that and of course if your in a relationship its a big no no to look @ someone elses breasts...for a guy its a loose loose situation..

if you go back to the drugs thing and the point u brought up there saying "you can't generalize the attitude towards soft drugs just by basing it on one person's bad experience he might have had with it" .... i.ve seen drug use go out of hand, i,ve had many of my freinds die from drug use, some went to prison....an old one even was shot in the back then they burned his body in a field just outside edinburgh ( wouldnt actually call him a freind tbh it was just a guy i knew back then )...3-4 of my freinds have died due to heroin use and guess what.....yup u got it....they all started on soft drugs and were regular users of soft drugs before going onto harder drugs...its the attitude that leeds people to try newer things which in itself is the biggest danger.. with most drugs you build a tollerance so everytime you take them you are trying to recreate that first fealing you got from the drug....this is where extacy falls flat on its feet. the drug scene in the UK is very different to most places as its a very very dirty scene, infact some people call it the drug dumpster of europe..no 1 thinks about what the drugs have been cut with or where the drugs has come from they just get them and start eating or smoking them which in turn leeds to other problems as the impurities are probibly more damaging to the body that the actual drugs are.

[Tatanka]

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...just legalize it and tax the crap out of it. I love me some drink and I'll be happy to pay the tacks on a blunt!

[unkownartist]

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take what i have just told you in previous posts then take into consideration a few things which go hand in hand with this story....i started to get ill around 2001 while i was still @ uni but i had a previous scare around 1992 when @ the time i'd been doing a few things i maybe of shouldnt...this is where the story starts getting completely fucked up... it was in 1992 when i worked in big market in glasgow selling copies of amiga games and around this time i was not only taking things i shouldnt of but i was also going to a few dance events or raves which were happeneing around that time...i didnt think anything of it @ the time but a big glasgow newspaper the evening times printed a story on what we were doing on that market stall at the time and my best freinds picture was printed on the front page, i just happened to be in another place @ the time in the market so i wasnt included in the picture...of course when your young the and stupid you pick up the paper and hang it on the wall with pride lol...a little while later, probibly in the same year, i,m not exactly sure of the correct timing me and another freind of mine went to a big rave which was going on about an hours drive from where we stay, it was only 2 of us that went and it was probibly the biggest event of this time that scotland had seen, the event passed without any hitches for us but the next day the same thing happened with the exact same newspaper....they printed a picture of my freind at this event with me just out of the camera view....thinking back now with what i know now it was just too much of a coincedence for it to just be a coincedence.... out of 20,000 people or so they just happened to print his picture on the front page when my other freinds picture had been printed also ?.... this is about to get really freeky here.....

while at college and uni i started to notice that a few things wernt right especially with certain music that i had created being erm how can i put this..."cloned"...by people if i told u exactly who u would consider me completely insane...and thats the catch...this is exactly what they want you to think....i,m probibly about to commit suicide by telling you guys this but in all honesty i think that was has happened in the past 10 years to me personally should be told so that it doesnt happen to other people...at uni a few strage things happened, my drink was spiked on 2 occasions and on one occasion i woke up with me feeling a little strange and again i really didnt think much about it @ the time as crazy as it seems...i had been using warez to get through my college and uni courses as everyone else was around that time, you cant afford to buy the programs they teach you so of course this is the easy option, its wrong yes i agree but this whole story kind of ties in with what i,ve previously told you about the market.

this is about to describe an illness and i still believe that this was actual reality and not my mind imagining things....certain people in a certain way have developed a way to fake an illness...i,m admiment on that and what they do is they create a story so unbelievable that if you tell someone about it then ur instantly catagorised as insane which is exactly what happened to me and when ur have that on your record certain people will use that against you for life. like i previously mensioned i had some music taken from me in ways i cant describe fully as its taken years of thought to establish just an idea of how this was done as my computer i was writing on was not online or wasnt even connected to any external audio devices or anything like that...i went to the police who basically told me to goto computer crime squad unit in govan glasgow, i phoned them which and described my problem to them and after recording the phone call in which i admitted using cracked software they sent a couple of police officers out to my house, they more or less took one look @ me and thought i must of been crazy and left....its happened again, yes someone took more music ( some of which wasnt even recorded via midi or sampling ) and used it...it was really really fly how they done it and i was becoming very very stressed and it was showing in my body lanuage and every thing, to a medical person this is the first thing they will look @ when they are assessing you mentally, if your body lanuage is nervous then alarm bells will start ringing in there assesment...

it was at this point i just about had enough of this and got the idea well if the cops aint doing nothing about it then fuck it i,m going to the goverment which i did as the head of the scottish goverment at the time just happened to have his office at the end of my road...i went into his office over the period of 3-4 days and told his secratary my story, she wrote it down and i tried to supply them with 29 discs of evidence which i had previously burried...sounds strange yea well if you had been under the pressure that i had been then you would of seen that this would of been the best thing to do, i was begining to get so paranoid and was starting to believe i was being set up as a pedo or something, i wasnt going to let that happen to my family.

now think about the state of mind i would of been in at this point...it was at this point i started to notice that pictures in another big newspaper the daily record were similar to faces i'd seen before or had been part of my life previously...the fly bastards...i really hate the press more than i hate drugs and i think u can see why now as its still happening to this day, just a few weeks ago on ther front page a girl i met @ uni and was there when i was spiked had an exact lookalike picture printed on rthe front page and 2-3 days ago another image of how i remember my grandad...this goes back to the previous explination of a story which is so unbelievable that noone in there right mind would believe it....its like a certain establishment has developed a way to torture without breaking the law, i see it in the same light as subliminal messages in old rock songs...and yes torture is exactly how i would describe it .... the press are complete assholesthey get away with murder, quite litterally, they use the fear factor in everything they do, they think they are so powerfull that they are untouchable...i think this was about lowering me into a state of thinking where i would make a mistake and look try to see something to them or something similar, its really hard to explain but when ur into a certain way of thinking certain noises around you become a hinderance or rather annoiance and of course this describes scytzophrenia....lets face it in society well british society i,m not exactly a perfect image of how they would like to percieve there country to be, an ex druggy with a skin head who has previous links to criminal activity and thats not including the fact that i like edm which is hated and i meen really hated by anyone over the age of 40 in this country because again those assholes the press have gave it such a bad image, it sells there product, its all about money and greed.

just after i went to the government about this i was so stressed that i was becoming exceptionally paranoid and had travelled to london a few times and by now i was thinking that everything around me had something to do with this and i meen everything, its quite possible if u take into consideration the above story....while in london in dec 2002 ( i think or could of been 2001 ) i was actually thinking that the only way to get away from ehll was too move to another country so after a few frighteneing experiences living rough on london streets for a few nights i jumped onto a plain and travelled to faro in portugal, when i got there i didnt really know what to do so i stayed in the airport @ first and after a day of living in the airport i noticed that someone who i had seen in london and had a particular "incident" with had travelled to faro also...freeky shit...now this person was in luton airport and had left the airport ( if i remember correctly ) the previous day to me travelling and now was in the same place as me in a foreign country....i found that scarily strange....

i travelled the short distance from the airport to the sea where i met a exceptionally kind irish guy who got in touch with one of his english freinds who happened to have an orange orchard and he said i could stay there for as long as i wanted just as long as i done some work around the place which was fine with me....i needed to get some internet access during my stay here so i visited a local library to go online i wont go into great details but everytime i used the pc i sat in the same place and on the last time i visited there was a sticker with gold hand writing saying "newer grounds"...while on the orange orchard i started noticing that " this unbelievable story" had followed me there and this quaint old english wasnt around @ all as he was staying with his girlfreind down by the sea...so why and bear with me on this one...why did he change the radio station everytime i turned it from the one that had been playing some of the stuff which was cloned back to the one which had been playing it ? ( if that makes sense ) espoecially when he'd only been visiting the orchard for @ most 5-10 minutes at a time @ this point ?...this is describing paranioa here which is exactly how someone wanted me to look...they made sure that every musical gene got a bit of me probibly in an attempt to show just what a force you would be dealing with if you chose to stand up and fight it.....rap, rock, brit pop, edm etc etc its like everywhere i took my ears it followed me...usually with all the people i had mensioned previously that i had a disliking to there style or whatever...i,m not going to comment on that any more.


anyway enough rambling....i,m off to listen to transitions vol 4 to relax a little

[Kamal]

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are you trying to top each post with a longer one ? from after hours MSN chats to reasons behind legalizing alcohol....wowza

[i!!ustrious]

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quality readings yall... as they say, strong swords are tempered in the pits'

..not gunna ever judge one passing thru the 'fires of suffering.'

imho. 'moderation is the discipine. being permastoned really sucks. alcoholism is as bad as smoking heroin, and pills are a bust regardless. meth is just stupid period. '

going cold turkey is hard but sober motion dominates all.

[Kamal]

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you drinking on the job again ?

[i!!ustrious]

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nah. done with all that (no car keys and no cell really helped). now i gotta deal with the consequences in my character.

[feather]

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Eh? After 4 pages and all that, and still no kinky webcam action? Come on!

[Shiva]

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Eh? After 4 pages and all that, and still no kinky webcam action? Come on!

I'm ready!!! My cam is installed, but I guess I will have to wait for the last weekend of August to join you guys, coz this weekend I have 2 gigs (Sat16 & Sun17), and the next weekend I have the music festival (Fri 22) and the peace parade (Sat 23)
So for me it's gone to 29/30 Aug to join in...

(maybe i'll make it for Sun 24, not sure, depends on how tired i will be)

[DIDI]

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look @ it in a different light...all those drug dealers...when its legalised where are they going to earn there cash ? in all probibilities they will turn to a different type of crime. and lol @ no adverse reactions to xtc recorded, so no 1 had a fit? no 1 10 years down the line went into depresion or something similar...the trouble with xtc and other soft drugs like that is that the damage is like slow death as it takes a while for the actual damage to reach enough potential to do actual damage to the body. legalisation doesnt work it only shifts the prpblem from one thing to another and of course you could then argue that if it was legal then it would be taxed and all those treetments could be paid for by tax and stuff like that....in all honesty...fuck that...the money is better spent...if you can make people happy then there is no need for people to escape life by getting high!!! its better to hit the problem @ ground level rather than deal with it @ the next stage because by the time it gets to the next stage ur in a situation where people have lost life or been mentally scarred......i,ve been there...its not a nice situation to be in and when people know that about you 9 times out of 10 they will use it against you to get what they want...that i cant stress enough.

think about what i just said and also the harder side of drugs....it hasnt even been considered in this discusion yet....its something u should think about

Firstly neither shiva or myself were talking about the harder drugs, and I'm ONLY talking about mdma!You didn't read my post properly, I said WHEN IT WAS LEGAL IN THE US THERE WERE NO ADVERSE EVENTS. Well there doesn't seem to have been any ill effects from that era, and I have looked for reports. But of since it was made illegal they couldn't really do proper testing because most pills are not pure mdma anymore. For a brief time it was legal, manufactured in a proper factory with consistent dosage. Which is what happens when things are legal.

What will the crims do? That is a bad question I really didn't think we were into providing jobs for criminals Seriously , that is not a good reason to make things illegal.

Re damage it is well documented that mdma does not do anywhere near the damage that alcohol does. So if people switched to a LEGAL pill of mdma there would be less damage for taxpayers to pay for. There was a really great survey done in the UK which measured all drugs, both legal and illegal. for all harm including social. I tried to find a link but couldn't , will keep trying. This is from another article I found on another survey.

"Under one possible ratings system, heroin, cocaine and barbiturates would be rated the most dangerous drugs. Alcohol (5th) and tobacco (9th) would be treated as more hazardous than cannabis (11th), LSD (14th) and ecstasy (18th)."



In an ideal world the rest of what you say would be true. But it isn't an ideal world and the drug that both I and a lot of the experts consider one of the worst is perfectly legal. Hey, maybe those muslims are on the right track with banning alcohol.

How much drug talk can we do here??

[Shiva]

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^ I am not that surprised of his opinion, after all he is Irish and whisky is their national product. A bit like Lebanon where grass "used" to be a national product... Somehow it becomes part of the local culture.

[DIDI]

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Back on topic. Checking Hernan's spanish forum and if google translate is correct, someone suggested they do that with Metrodance shows. Choose a show and all play it at the time the metrodance shows were broadcast. They REALLY miss him

[DIDI]

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^ I am not that surprised of his opinion, after all he is Irish and whisky is their national product. A bit like Lebanon where grass "used" to be a national product... Somehow it becomes part of the local culture.

I thought he was scottish ?? Still neither are known for the teetotalism are they

[feather]

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We should just have a thread or proper discussion on this, I'm confused 'cos I'm reading pretty much the same anti-drug thing between this thread and the salvia thread Not even sure what thread I'm in anymore.

Hmmm I'll start one up.

[Shiva]

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Yesterday my hubby and I tried the new webcam with some friends from around the world. We managed to get through to Europe & Middle-East but didnt manage to open a video connection with the US...