WTC7 collapse caused by "new phenomenon"

[chunky]

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More evidence points to conspiracy than not.

Without doubt.

[Localizer]

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The government hid the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment for almost 40 years. They also traded immunity to the general of Unit 731 for his documents on human experimentation, a lot of which were conducted on koreans and manchurians and more notably US POWS.

[sammwalk]

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This from the link above:

Skeptics have questioned whether explosives were planted at the three towers at ground zero, and at the Pentagon as well, often contending that the Bush administration had planned the catastrophes to provide a justification to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.

What I don't understand is how this can remotely be seen as a course of action the the Bush administration (or any part of the government) could take. While I'm quite unhappy with the administration for numerous reasons, I would never go so far as to believe that they would kill unarmed American civilians on American soil in one of the most economically important sites in the US. I think anyone with this view has their head severely up their ass.

To believe that the government intentionally caused 9/11 would be to assume:

- That the Republican Bush administration, while moderately corrupt and quite incompetent, could kill its own countrymen on purpose
- That all of the historic record of information that points to Al Qaeda as the plotters of 9/11 are fabrications
- That such justification to invade would even be needed. If we stipulate that that government was so powerful, so deceitful and diabolical to attack itself, then that same government would not have to attack itself in order to convince the public
- That the Bush administration had reason to believe that the threat from Iraq/Afghanistan was so severe in a pre 9/11 mindset that the murder of 3000+ unarmed civilians, the ruin of major national landmarks in the economic capital of the US, and the subsequent economic fallout was nothing in comparison to that threat
- That the Bush administration would somehow think that the world would sit idly by as the US invaded unprovoked countries and that this would not affect American interests abroad

Seriously, wtf. c'mon.

[88Mariner]

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you don't have to assume any of that to reach a conclusion that a particular intra-government conspiracy existed at the time.

It isn't the first time false flag operations have been used to garner unequivocal support for whatever the sitting administration acts on in terms of foriegn policy. Whether a conspiracy existed or not has nothing to do with a republican administratoion. And, clearly to invade an innocent country in terms of the 9/11 attacks, there had to be a conjured up story about the presence of WMDs which could be used against the main land.

I'm no conspiracy theoriest, but I'm not convinced that I should trust the government should audit itself on matters like these. Perhaps I should be more trusting like you?

[thesightless]

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im cheering for samwalk

[chunky]

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To believe that the government intentionally caused 9/11 would be to assume:

- That the Republican Bush administration, while moderately corrupt and quite incompetent, could kill its own countrymen on purpose
- That all of the historic record of information that points to Al Qaeda as the plotters of 9/11 are fabrications
- That such justification to invade would even be needed. If we stipulate that that government was so powerful, so deceitful and diabolical to attack itself, then that same government would not have to attack itself in order to convince the public
- That the Bush administration had reason to believe that the threat from Iraq/Afghanistan was so severe in a pre 9/11 mindset that the murder of 3000+ unarmed civilians, the ruin of major national landmarks in the economic capital of the US, and the subsequent economic fallout was nothing in comparison to that threat
- That the Bush administration would somehow think that the world would sit idly by as the US invaded unprovoked countries and that this would not affect American interests abroad

Seriously, wtf. c'mon.

Haven't seen any evidence that points to Al Qaeda. The Bush administration said they would show us the evidence. If its out there somebody point me in the direction of it.

Didn't the American government allow the attack on Pearl Harbour where many Americans where killed

To believe that the Al Qaeda intentionally caused 9/11 would be to assume:

A few towel heads with box cutters took control of 4 aircraft, Some how convinced NORAD to stand down. Then fly one plane around Washington then somehow crash that plane in to the pentagon, leaving no visible trace of the plane, and no impact hole. Leaving no surveillance video footage of the plane to one of the most security tight buildings in the world. Then flying 2 of the planes into 2 asbestos riddled buildings in NY causing them to fall down at near free fall speed. Causing some flying debris to hit a third building causing it to catch fire and fall down at near free fall speed a few hours latter. Just after it had already been reported on the BBC news. All while Bush who claimed he watch the first plane hit on the TV sat idle in the class room reading a children's book.

If it was a phenomenon and couldn't of been foreseen. How come it had already been reported that it had collapsed when it hadn't. No reports of any other building collapsing that day

[sammwalk]

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Haven't seen any evidence that points to Al Qaeda. The Bush administration said they would show us the evidence. If its out there somebody point me in the direction of it.

Read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Qaeda-Road-Vintage/dp/1400030846/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219859394&sr=8-3

Didn't the American government allow the attack on Pearl Harbour where many Americans where killed

This skeptical argument could also be used in any context where presumably unanticipated negative events precipitated an ultimately positive or previously desired outcome. While this fact alone doesn't make it false, it makes it as unbelievable as any such case.

To believe that the Al Qaeda intentionally caused 9/11 would be to assume:

A few towel heads with box cutters took control of 4 aircraft, Some how convinced NORAD to stand down. Then fly one plane around Washington then somehow crash that plane in to the pentagon, leaving no visible trace of the plane, and no impact hole. Leaving no surveillance video footage of the plane to one of the most security tight buildings in the world. Then flying 2 of the planes into 2 asbestos riddled buildings in NY causing them to fall down at near free fall speed. Causing some flying debris to hit a third building causing it to catch fire and fall down at near free fall speed a few hours latter. Just after it had already been reported on the BBC news. All while Bush who claimed he watch the first plane hit on the TV sat idle in the class room reading a children's book.

If it was a phenomenon and couldn't of been foreseen. How come it had already been reported that it had collapsed when it hadn't. No reports of any other building collapsing that day

They weren't "towelheads", as you say. They were all clones of Bush. The real Bush was created in a lab in New Mexico in 1955. He died in the clone training tests of 1997 in preparation for the 9/11 attacks. The "Bush" we see now is a hologram. Have you ever shaken his hand? Have you ever seen him up close, in person? I didn't think so. But the Bush-clones could change their appearance, and made themselves to appear as Middle Eastern.

The Twin Towers were specifically constructed to fulfill their destiny as the sacrificial lambs for the US to invade Iraq. Though at the time Iraq was not a political enemy of the US and was not specifically known for its oil reserves, the Pentagon knew that little Iraq would once be a threat to eclipse the Nazis and the Communists combined, and would also hold the key to unlocking the world's oil reserves- also at the time not widely considered to be in any danger of depletion. The construction began in 1947 and was hidden from view for 13 years by the Philadelphia Experiment. While under this protective invisibility structural bombs were planted in the Towers to bring them down on September 11, 2001, the perfect time for invasion.

The planes were actually made out of paper-mache. The Bush-clones too the guise of structural supports upon impact, thus escaping the eye of the watchful media. They are still among us.

[chunky]

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Read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Qaeda-Road-Vintage/dp/1400030846/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219859394&sr=8-3

Is that the Bush administration's answer. We Got The Evidence Read this book. If the evidence is in this book why haven't they presented it. There's thousands of books out there all with their own version. The one thing I've noticed. The people with the so called conspiracy theories like to show you the video evidence and ask you to check it from an official source. The people from The National Institute of Standards and Technology just keep on repeating it couldn't happen like that, or this is incorrect. But as far as I'm aware they still haven't managed to recreate what happened. There's so many things wrong with the official story, I'm surprised anyone believes it. Not to mention the whole lack of transparency with the whole official investigation. I think if the evidence was in that book the Bush administration would of presented it by now.

It says at the beginning of Star Wars "A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far Far Away" so dose that mean Star Wars was real to

[thesightless]

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lmao.

the buildings were designed to fall exactly as they did though, and that comes from the architect who designed the building. having them too stiff on that scale would lead to tipping and destroying a lot more than what happened. imagine if the two towers fell over, not down and think of how many buildings would have gone with them. a few square city block instead of the few acres.

[shosh]

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Read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Qaeda-Road-Vintage/dp/1400030846/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219859394&sr=8-3

This skeptical argument could also be used in any context where presumably unanticipated negative events precipitated an ultimately positive or previously desired outcome. While this fact alone doesn't make it false, it makes it as unbelievable as any such case.



They weren't "towelheads", as you say. They were all clones of Bush. The real Bush was created in a lab in New Mexico in 1955. He died in the clone training tests of 1997 in preparation for the 9/11 attacks. The "Bush" we see now is a hologram. Have you ever shaken his hand? Have you ever seen him up close, in person? I didn't think so. But the Bush-clones could change their appearance, and made themselves to appear as Middle Eastern.

The Twin Towers were specifically constructed to fulfill their destiny as the sacrificial lambs for the US to invade Iraq. Though at the time Iraq was not a political enemy of the US and was not specifically known for its oil reserves, the Pentagon knew that little Iraq would once be a threat to eclipse the Nazis and the Communists combined, and would also hold the key to unlocking the world's oil reserves- also at the time not widely considered to be in any danger of depletion. The construction began in 1947 and was hidden from view for 13 years by the Philadelphia Experiment. While under this protective invisibility structural bombs were planted in the Towers to bring them down on September 11, 2001, the perfect time for invasion.

The planes were actually made out of paper-mache. The Bush-clones too the guise of structural supports upon impact, thus escaping the eye of the watchful media. They are still among us.

toast of the month

[neoee]

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Damn conspiracy theorists - WTC 7 fell because of fire, wind, steel expansion, trolls, unicorns, and the toothfairy:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAgi4Z5ImRU[/youtube]

[chunky]

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lmao.

the buildings were designed to fall exactly as they did though, and that comes from the architect who designed the building. having them too stiff on that scale would lead to tipping and destroying a lot more than what happened. imagine if the two towers fell over, not down and think of how many buildings would have gone with them. a few square city block instead of the few acres.

So we have gone from Buildings Designed To Survive An Aircraft Crash, to Building Designed To Fall Down. Where exactly did the architect who designed the building say this ?

[runningman]

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Richard Gage highly credentialed architect when it comes to steel structures with over 20 years experience says the buildings were blown up with NASA explosives thermate and thermite. 700 Architects and Enginners demand new investigation.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssuAMNas1us[/youtube]

[i!!ustrious]

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[Garrick]

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so this architect and many others have a theory. al gore has a theory too with tons of scientists giving convincing lectures on why global warming exists... does that mean its true? no, not necessarily.