Sitting on the deck chair's of the titanic (pt.1)

[Lorn]

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^had a malbec tonight. good weeknight wine, pairs with almost anything, ridiculous value in argentina.

Nice....try this one. Spanish red. Las Rocas. 11.99 here in PA. Robert Parker rated 91.

Very nice. Easy drink yet full body.

[88Mariner]

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^ What are you doing in PA?????? i didnt realize you were so damn close. Awesome.

[Lorn]

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Yup. Been in PA since my mommy pushed me out. Live in the LV.

[toasty]

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Nice....try this one. Spanish red. Las Rocas. 11.99 here in PA. Robert Parker rated 91.

Very nice. Easy drink yet full body.

Love this stuff -- very easy drinking, great mid-week wine, one of my stand-bys. Prefer the garnacha...

[runningman]

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We can't get that wine here in Canada because the LCBO doesn't order it in. I will have to special order it then if everybody is saying it is this good..

[Jenks]

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Love this stuff -- very easy drinking, great mid-week wine, one of my stand-bys. Prefer the garnacha...

yep, agreed lorn. been killing the las rocas too. 9.99 @ randalls, toasty. the 05 garnacha is 15 i think.

[Lorn]

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yep, agreed lorn. been killing the las rocas too. 9.99 @ randalls, toasty. the 05 garnacha is 15 i think.

06 Garnacha is the one with a Parker rating of 91

[toasty]

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9.99 @ randalls, toasty.

Well aware.

[Lorn]

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. 9.99 @ randalls

Another reason to get rid of government involvement. PA State controlled liquer. Retail 11.99 plus tax.

[Jenks]

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^ uh, you just described bob barr in your last line. (with two trivial exceptions on policy)

um, no on bob barr:

he is against medical marijuana
he voted FOR iraq
he asked that certain religions be banned in the military\
he voted FOR the patriot act
he authored and sponsored the defense of marriage act
he was one of the most conservative members in congress during his tenure
he is anti abortion
people call him "jekyll and hyde" in congress
...not typing the rest of the list, but it's a long one i don't agree with.


how the fk did this guy become libertarian? Captain Douche McGee imo.

Obama is still getting my vote at the moment, because it's a vote that counts against McCain.

[thesightless]

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saw the error of his ways. he even went on to do a ton of research and pandered to get us out of iraq. he voted yes on a fabrication. once he found out, unlike the rest of the people running for office, he admitted it, and worked to correct it.

[thesightless]

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good written interview between reason.com and barr.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/28960.html

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Reason: Do you regret voting for the USA PATRIOT Act?
Barr: I do. I was hoping at the time that it would not be used as a floor but as a ceiling. But it's been a taking-off point for expanded authority in a number of areas. Perhaps most important is the fact that the administration seems to be pushing its application as broadly as it can in nonterrorism cases. And despite the assurances by the administration that Section 215, which relates to obtaining records from libraries and other repositories, is not being used, the fact is it is being used.
It has become much more problematic because it's part of a growing list of privacy-invasive government programs, such as TIA [Terrorism Information Awareness]. They changed the name [from Total Information Awareness] and John Poindexter has left the Defense Department, but I've seen nothing that indicates to me proof that TIA is absolutely dead with a stake driven through its heart and burned and its head cut off, which is how Steve Forbes used to describe what we needed to do with the IRS. So my presumption is that it in some form or fashion is continuing.
We have now the emergence of the CAPPS II system -- the airline passenger profiling system. We have, apparently, a number of state efforts that are being funded by the federal government, such as the one that just came to light called the Matrix system, down in Florida, where the feds are providing grant monies to state agencies to set up programs similar to TIA.
Reason: Isn't there a continuity between what Janet Reno was doing and what John Ashcroft's doing now? A lot of these measures are warmed over from the Clinton years.
Barr: I think that's a very accurate observation. It's one that I and a number of others had when we first saw the initial version of the law. It wasn't called the PATRIOT Act originally -- that was some acronym that someone came up with a few weeks later -- but the first version of what later became the PATRIOT Act was very familiar to a number of us on the Hill. We had seen many of these provisions submitted previously by the Clinton administration.

[88Mariner]

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that was a dec 2003 article btw. it's been what....4 years since? imagine how much more libertarian he is now. .

[88Mariner]

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that was a dec 2003 article btw. it's been what....4 years since? imagine how much more libertarian he is now.

[Jenks]

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oh gee, let's just imagine the possibilities!!! no thanks. he isn't relevant in this election.