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  • runningman
    Playa I'm a Sooth Saya
    • Jun 2004
    • 5995

    Mdma

    The patients at Dr. Michael Mithoefer's clinic in South Carolina all suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. Some are the victims of rape and child sexual abuse, others -- veterans returning home from Iraq -- bear the psychic scars of war. Marijuana, cocaine, salvia, GHB, LSD, drugs, psychadelics, medical marijuana, Ecstasy, drugs, ABC, research, Russell Goldman They have tried other therapies before, but here under the watchful eye of Mithoefer and his staff they're trying something new -- MDMA, better known as Ecstasy, a drug that if bought on a street corner would land these patients in the jail. The results of the Mithoefer study -- the first FDA-approved Phase 2 trial of MDMA to treat post-traumatic stress -- will not be known until it concludes later this month, but already the doctor says the treatment shows promise. "We have had some very dramatic results," Mithoefer said. "We have examples of people on disability for years who have now returned to work. The treatment has had a profound effect on a number of people whose symptoms are now much better. It hasn't been that way for everybody, but overall this seems to be much more effective than what is currently out there." The study, which involved 21 patients and began four years ago, took years of planning. Though Mithoefer is affiliated with the University of South Carolina, the study was conducted at his private clinic and funded by non-profit group. After the DEA stalled approval for the research, he says, the university balked from sponsoring a study involving a controversial and otherwise illegal substance. MDMA is not the only drug that has spent time both on the street and in the laboratory. Like an ex-con trying to clean up his act and leave behind his criminal past, illicit drugs have a hard time shaking off their bad reputations. Many illegal drugs could have pharmacological futures -- many were initially developed for medicinal purposes, and some can be found in your medicine cabinet masquerading under assumed names -- but scientists looking to do new research say it is difficult to get funding or approval for studies on drugs with rap sheets. That marijuana, cocaine, morphine, methamphetamines, even the so-called "date rape drug" GHB have versions approved by the FDA, does not mean securing funds and permission to research these drugs is easy. "The DEA really slowed us down. We submitted a 550-page application to the FDA and we were approved pretty quickly. Working with a controversial Schedule 1 drug made getting permission from the DEA difficult," Mithoefer said of the class of substances the Drug Enforcement Agency believes have the greatest potential for abuse. Many of the scientists working on research with illegal drugs say the government bureaucracy and having to obtain permission from numerous agencies scares off researchers, their backers and institutions. "The university didn't want to be involved in the study. It seemed too controversial. Fortunately, we were getting our funding elsewhere. The lengthy delays makes it difficult for many researchers to go forward. This is a real problem. There are many people suffering and there shouldn't be these needles delays," he said. Those delays, say the FDA and DEA, are necessary to ensuring the most dangerous drugs do not get into the wrong hands or are misused. Research proposals for human trials need to be approved by the FDA and DEA and in some cases – like when marijuana is involved – other federal agencies as well. "There are a lot of players when it comes to drugs," said DEA spokesperson Rogene Waite. "Different agencies with different authorities each need to sign off." "From our perspective we're always concerned about safety and regardless of the schedule we're looking at the same set of issues. But when it comes to illegal drugs, there is going to be the highest levels of security and scrutiny on those drugs," she said. MDMA, or methylenedioxymethamphetamine, has its roots in the medical community. It was developed and used surreptitiously by psychiatrists in the 1970s. If it was one day to return to the medicine chest it would follow a long line of other drugs that remain illegal in one form but legal in another. "If you look back over the history of many so-called street drugs, many have origins in well intentioned and scientifically sound theories for use in medicine and more noble purposes than just getting high," said Paul L. Doering, a pharmacology professor and director of the University of Florida's Drug Information and Pharmacy Resource Center. "The distinction between illegal and legal is tenuous," he said, "the door swings in both directions. These drugs have to replace their tie-dye shirts with lab-coats." Though marijuana cigarettes are sold for medicinal purposes in some states, federally it remains technically illegal in all but one form. Sold under the name Marinol, THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) is prescribed as an appetite stimulant to treat nausea in cancer patients receiving chemotherapy and weight loss in AIDS patients. The popular and legal drug Aderol given to children with attention-deficit disorder is just one carbon molecule away from being the popular illegal drug methamphetamine. Cocaine, a local anesthetic like Novocain, has the added benefit of restricting blood vessels to stop bleeding. It is regularly used in its liquid form in emergency rooms and in facial surgery. The "date-rape" drug GHB, is classified as Schedule 1 drug and is illegal if you posses it with the intention of drugging someone in a bar, but is classified as a Schedule 2 drug, when prescribed as Xyrem for use in the treatment of narcolepsy. Beyond just governmental bureaucracy, Doering and others say, other barriers remain in the way of conducting medical research on illegal drugs. "There are several factors keeping theses drugs out of the lab," he said "The main challenge is overcoming their bad reputations and convincing the research community that under the right circumstances -- under evaluation and regulation these drugs can be tamed to help humankind." In addition to government regulation and the drugs' own bad reputations, an inability to patent, and therefore make money off these substance also stalls research. Raw marijuana, literally a weed, cannot be patented nor can a drug discovered decades ago like LSD. Salvia, a hallucinogenic, is perhaps the newest plant to be recognized for both its recreational and potential medical uses. Still legal in most states, the drug is under review by the DEA to determine whether it should be criminalized. If it is declared illegal before scientists get a chance to begin research, some fear that the drug will face the same challenges of other illegal substances with medicinal potential. "Salvia might have all kinds of uses in the treatment of mental disorders and we shouldn't stop research before we've even started," said Rick Doblin, president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, a non-profit that funds research on otherwise illegal drugs, including Dr. Mithoefer's MDMA study. "It is hard to quantify the lost benefits by not allowing this research to go on," Doblin said. "But how can the government justify keeping drugs that improve or save people's lives out of their hands?"


    Well I guess the proof is in the pudding here.
  • Dhar_2
    meat and potatoes
    • Jun 2004
    • 18924

    #2
    Re: Mdma

    Yayee for extacsy!!!!

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    • lilsensa
      DUDERZ get a life!!!
      • Jun 2004
      • 6675

      #3
      Re: Mdma

      In my opinion, MDMA would only be a short term solution for PTSD. The long term negative effects of using would far outweigh the positive short term effects. Trust me. Most would say that they are glad that they tried it, but wish they wouldn't have done it so much, as it has messed them up in the long run.
      RIP ~ Steve James







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      • AntonyM
        DUDERZ get a life!!!
        • Oct 2004
        • 6415

        #4
        Re: Mdma

        who would not a bit of ol MDMA for the workday and then crank up the MCast all afternoon. Sounds good but isn't this country overally drug dependent already?
        Originally posted by Shpira
        So came back last night...
        Sven Vath was amazing...he played a god damn killer set...ended up going to that and came to at like 10 am in some whore house in south Amsterdam...no idea how I ended up there...friday was a bit of a blur got really drunk and visited several parties can't remember a whole lot to be honest hehe...saturday was probably the best day that I recall...started up in the nearest coffee shop and going from party to party...beautiful woman, beer and weed...finished the night by taking some shrooms and listening to an amazing elke kleijn set...sunday...i met a nice girl who worked at one of the coffee shops and ended up talking to her for like 6 hours...was supposed to meet her at some DnB party...but instead went for a steak and walked around red light district bars drinking and smoking...monday took it easy went to a coffee shop and took a taxi to airport....

        All in all...I think I will be going back there some time soon
        Originally posted by Illuminate
        Let me get this straight.

        So white-middle class Americans have been told by their Television sets to be fearful of:

        1. Mexicans/Latinos from the South bringing drugs and killings n' shit.
        2. African Americans cause mos def they are raging a race war and want to occupy America like how the plebs occupied Wall St.
        3. Iranians/Afghans/Any one of middle eastern origin to be quite frank, cause you know Islam...
        4. North Koreans/Chinese cause you know everything...

        Am I close here?

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        • Steve Graham
          DJ Jelly
          • Jun 2004
          • 12887

          #5
          Re: Mdma

          this isnt really anything new, there were case studies of this nature back in the 60's and 70's

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          • DARKBEATS
            Getting warmed up
            • Dec 2007
            • 55

            #6
            Re: Mdma

            Methylenedioxymethamphetamine!!!
            No matter what u may think , the music would never stop , the heart beat will never fade , the party will never End... We are the party and this is our Manphesto

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            • highdesert
              Getting Somewhere
              • Sep 2008
              • 169

              #7
              Re: Mdma

              Pure MDMA is a lot different than the little pills everyone is familiar with. Proven therapeutic effects for over 40 years and is more of an emotional stimulant than mind warping hallucinogens. I'm not a psychologist nor do I play one on tv but it would seem to me that getting past the inital blocks for disorders like PTSD would be the key, not daily use for the rest of your life. It may not be right for all but if it helps any it should be researched further instead of enduring an unreasonable societal ban like witches in Salem.

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              • i!!ustrious
                I got some N64 Games Yo!!
                • Mar 2008
                • 12308

                #8
                Re: Mdma

                Therapeutically considered:

                Natural healz = win

                Synthetic e-tardation = fail

                this -->


                trumps this -->



                (((( }-d|-__-|b-{ ))))

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                • bobjuice
                  Banned
                  • May 2008
                  • 4894

                  #9
                  Re: Mdma

                  you're right matt - natural is best
                  whether it's drugs, tits or the colour of your pubes

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                  • miketpoto
                    Shabisquik The Ghetto Queen
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 4223

                    #10
                    Re: Mdma

                    Mmmmmmmmmm Molly

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                    • simonr
                      Transitionator
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 8796

                      #11
                      Re: Mdma

                      Nice study - nothing like MDMA to get you back to the working environment !
                      sigpicSimonR

                      This release was mastered direct from vinyl at the request of the DJ and as such features natural sound characteristics of this medium such as record surface noise.

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                      • jeffrey collins
                        Not cool enough
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 7427

                        #12
                        Re: Mdma

                        Was watching a Terrence McKenna video where he said there are substances in NUTMEG that were the precursors to MDMA. Said he used to do it in High School and would have very colorful experiences when he would awake the next day.
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                        • Huggie Smiles
                          Anyone have Styx livesets?
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 11836

                          #13
                          Re: Mdma

                          some universities are putting folks thru fMRI scanners while on E. to look at area's of activation etc
                          I want to know how they keep them still enough!

                          think its Vanderbilt.
                          ....Freak in the morning, Freak in the evening, aint no other Freak like me thats breathing....




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                          • AntonyM
                            DUDERZ get a life!!!
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 6415

                            #14
                            Re: Mdma

                            Originally posted by miketpoto
                            Mmmmmmmmmm Molly
                            Yeah it is amazing molly is not more prevalent in club culture, uncut is the way to go.
                            Originally posted by Shpira
                            So came back last night...
                            Sven Vath was amazing...he played a god damn killer set...ended up going to that and came to at like 10 am in some whore house in south Amsterdam...no idea how I ended up there...friday was a bit of a blur got really drunk and visited several parties can't remember a whole lot to be honest hehe...saturday was probably the best day that I recall...started up in the nearest coffee shop and going from party to party...beautiful woman, beer and weed...finished the night by taking some shrooms and listening to an amazing elke kleijn set...sunday...i met a nice girl who worked at one of the coffee shops and ended up talking to her for like 6 hours...was supposed to meet her at some DnB party...but instead went for a steak and walked around red light district bars drinking and smoking...monday took it easy went to a coffee shop and took a taxi to airport....

                            All in all...I think I will be going back there some time soon
                            Originally posted by Illuminate
                            Let me get this straight.

                            So white-middle class Americans have been told by their Television sets to be fearful of:

                            1. Mexicans/Latinos from the South bringing drugs and killings n' shit.
                            2. African Americans cause mos def they are raging a race war and want to occupy America like how the plebs occupied Wall St.
                            3. Iranians/Afghans/Any one of middle eastern origin to be quite frank, cause you know Islam...
                            4. North Koreans/Chinese cause you know everything...

                            Am I close here?

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                            • feather
                              Shanghai ooompa loompa
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 20900

                              #15
                              Re: Mdma

                              Originally posted by jeffrey collins
                              Was watching a Terrence McKenna video where he said there are substances in NUTMEG that were the precursors to MDMA. Said he used to do it in High School and would have very colorful experiences when he would awake the next day.
                              I read about nutmeg too, but you'd have to take obscene amounts of it for anything to happen I think.

                              The whole problem with these research or health issues of MDMA stems from the shit that is on the streets. Ecstacy might be the street name for MDMA, but the two substances are a world of difference.

                              Obviously no one in the past decade has partied with real/pure MDMA powder, so while all Ecstacy users might say they wished they didn't go so hard back in the day, we hardly provide a good sample on the effects of long-term consumption of pure MDMA.

                              That said, MDMA in this setting is used as a tool to help people in therapy, which is quite different from dosing them every week, locking them up in a overcrowded room with epilepsy-inducing lights, and subjecting them to loud music.

                              Unless therapy includes playing Xpander and letting them cry it all out

                              i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

                              Originally posted by Hoff
                              a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
                              Originally posted by m1sT3rL
                              Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

                              I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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