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would it bother you if you found out obama was a member of a socialist party?
Re: would it bother you if you found out obama was a member of a socialist party?
Originally posted by thesightless
not calling out o[pinion, but the answer to that is, plain and simple, it goes against every idea this coutnry was founded on. for the people, by the people.
however, i truly beleive socializing a few major industries would work and have a monster trickle down effect in the positive.
Your right that the US was not founded on the ideas of social democracy...but so what?
The ideas the US has been founded on are some what outdated as are the ideas any nation was founded on. Its time for the US to adapt to the new world. There is no more land that the you can stake a claim to, there is no more gold that you dig out and call your own and there is no more oil that you can drill for. So. . .the world has changed and the US tries not to.
The ideas o rugged individualism made a lot of sense back then but make little sense today.
As for the trickle down effect. . . that really does not work so well ask anyone who has the trickle falling down to them.
TheIdiotsAREWinning.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain
Re: would it bother you if you found out obama was a member of a socialist party?
nonsense shpira. it is now more than ever, incredibly necessary. the very 'ideas' which has created so much wealth, innovation, technology, ad inifinitum, is now being gutted by the very ideas that have proven themselves internally flawed.
this isn't about 'new' or 'old' ideas. it's about what works and what doesn't.
you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky
it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles
Re: would it bother you if you found out obama was a member of a socialist party?
Originally posted by 88Mariner
nonsense shpira. it is now more than ever, incredibly necessary. the very 'ideas' which has created so much wealth, innovation, technology, ad inifinitum, is now being gutted by the very ideas that have proven themselves internally flawed.
this isn't about 'new' or 'old' ideas. it's about what works and what doesn't.
this is true. if we start going down the path towards socialism and then communism, then we are fucked -> good bye free world (or whats left of the 'free' so far)
Re: would it bother you if you found out obama was a member of a socialist party?
Originally posted by shosh
this is true. if we start going down the path towards socialism and then communism, then we are fucked -> good bye free world (or whats left of the 'free' so far)
we're too damn far on this path. your comment compells me to tell you this. we started down this path decades ago.
you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky
it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles
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