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  • 88Mariner
    My dick is smaller
    • Nov 2006
    • 7128

    Republicans & Al Qaeda: Two Peas in a Pod

    this is a follow-up to a post I made earlier about al-qaeda giving sanction to McCain. Sammwalk and I were trying to sort through why this might be, and I think this take really hits at the core of why they have done so.

    Daily Times is an English-language Pakistani newspaper. Daily Times, is simultaneously published from Lahore, Islamabad and Karachi.


    I'm quoting it in full because each paragraph is epic win.
    COMMENT: Why Al Qaeda supports McCain —Ayeda Naqvi
    One side is intent on destroying, and the other side is content to be destroyed, for it is through its own destruction that will come the annihilation of its enemy. It is a sick relationship and yet one that both sides need

    It was an endorsement that caught everybody by surprise. Why would Al Qaeda, the terrorist organisation that prides itself on its hatred for the United States choose to support John McCain, the ultra-conservative, Bush Doctrine-following US Presidential candidate? How could Al Qaeda possibly benefit from another war hawk in the White House? And, most importantly, what could these two have in common?

    At first glance, not much. A closer look however suggests that beneath the surface, the rhetoric and the appearances, the American Right and Al Qaeda may actually be two peas in a pod.

    Think about the message posted on the al-Hesbah website which, when decoded and translated, said that “Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election”. The website was confident that McCain would continue the “failing march of his predecessor” which would then lead the US to exhaust its resources and bankrupt its economy. An expansion of US military commitments in an attempt to take revenge on Al Qaeda is exactly what this group wants. And this is what John McCain promises.

    So we have one side which is intent on destroying, and the other side which is content to be destroyed, for it is through its own destruction that will come the annihilation of its enemy. It is a sick relationship and yet one that both sides need, thriving on the demonisation of each other, without which they would have no reason to exist — or in this case, be elected.

    So what do the Republicans and Al Qaeda have in common? Divisiveness. It is the ‘with us or against us’ approach, the delineation of patriotic vs. non-patriotic parts of the country, the Red states vs. the Blue states, the black man vs. the white man that that strikes a chord with Al Qaeda, for they too have the same approach — if you are not with them, you are going to hell.

    It is the puritanical attitude that both groups share, the belief that all those who are different are to be shunned and that uniformity is the only way to achieve unity.

    And it is the use of fear as an operating mechanism that brings these two groups together. One side woos its voters by telling them the other candidate will take their money, turn their nation into a socialist state, coddle criminals and be an open target for the Russians and the Muslims. The other side recruits its followers by telling them that they will be enslaved by the immoral West, their wives will stop listening to them and there will be lewdness and orgies on the street.

    Both these groups cater to an uninformed audience. Both these groups preach intolerance. And both lure their followers by claims to “return to the core values” — a proposition which sounds good until you ask, what values? And more importantly, whose values?

    A great Sufi, Sheikh Ibn Arabi, once wrote, “Beware of confining yourself to one belief — for much good would elude you. Be in yourself a matter for all forms of belief, for God is too vast and tremendous to be restricted to one belief rather than another.”

    While the wisdom of this quote eludes both groups, they continue to shun a mindset that encourages inclusion and incorporation. They charge ahead without bemoaning the loss of innocent lives which result from their illegal, unilateral attacks on sovereign nations or blowing themselves up in public spaces.

    For them, their agendas comes first — in the case of Al Qaeda, doing whatever they can to bring down the West and set up their own rule in the East, in the case of the Republican Right, setting the stage for the Rapture, or the second coming of Christ, which many right-wing Christians, including Bush, believe can only happen once certain events take place.

    One of the pre-conditions for Rapture is a clash of civilisations, a polarisation of the world, something both Al Qaeda and the Republican Right seem to be working very hard at. But as another great Sufi once said, “There can be no clash of civilisations, only barbarisms. The civilised do not collide — they unite.”

    The question is, how civilised are those running our countries?

    Ayeda Naqvi has been a journalist for 17 years. She can be contacted at ayedanaqvi@yahoo.com
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  • thesightless
    Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
    • Jun 2004
    • 13567

    #2
    Re: Republicans & Al Qaeda: Two Peas in a Pod

    they love the current situation on america.

    if a republican wins, it gives them more support at thier home base, even though it hurts them in operations. thier an base gets largeer by the day in the hard line areas.

    if a democrat wins, they know its only a matter of time until we leave and let them operate more freely.

    they are in a win win situation. the people of that area dont mind them, in fact, a lot of them few al queda as a neccessary evil.
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    • sammwalk
      Gold Gabber
      • Jun 2004
      • 769

      #3
      Re: Republicans & Al Qaeda: Two Peas in a Pod

      it's an unfortunate difference of philosophies between liberals and conservatives and an over-arching problem of resource management which catalyzes this explosive reaction.

      US industrialization was made possible by the advent of cheap energy in the form of petroleum. this fueled western expansion in North America and gave rise to spread-out communities sustainable only by automobiles. we used to get all the petroleum that we needed in our own country. now we have to get most of it from other parts of the world.

      yet our economy and all of the spread of communities that arise from it remain sustainable only by personal transportation. instead of changing the blueprint for new communities and adapting old ones based on the dwindling domestic petroleum supply, we have kept them the same. since so much of the US population now lives in such communities, abandoning them is not an option. thus we will still need a cheap source of energy with which to power personal transportation because there is virtually no public transportation alternative.

      the demand for petroleum or a cheap alternative remains at an all time high. while alternative fuels are being explored, nothing is as cheap as pumping energy straight out of the ground. the markets are driven by cost and not sustainability, the environment, or long-term economic feasibility. there is little market value to exploring alternative sources of fuel as long as we can drill for petroleum and not come up dry. so alternative fuels will have the attention they truly need until the problem is upon us.

      going to other countries for petroleum means dealing with nations and nationals with non-US or even anti-US interests. simply doing business with such a country is not in and of itself a bad thing, human rights violations notwithstanding. however, conducting business with such countries means giving money to somebody or some organization in that country. there is a sudden influx of wealth. typically what happens is that the previously homogeneously under-developed country experiences disproportionate growth and advancement.

      this sudden disproportionate change does several things. it highlights existing class lines or creates new ones. it exacerbates extremist factions already upset with the class distinctions. it prevents opposing groups from settling their differences fairly. it can cause the governments to be tied to US interests with which the population disagrees.

      people rise up. terrorist organizations are formed (one of the few options available to such un-militarized nations) to prevent the US from continuing its business in the region. mostly the attacks stay in the region but sometimes they get out.

      to add: support of Israel is not the reason terrorists attack. rather, Israel is supported by the US, and the US continues to disrupt the status quo in the region by supporting petroleum-based regimes like the Saudis.

      it's important to recognize that this problem will follow us wherever we go to look for petroleum. it's not specifically a Middle East problem, but a problem with doing business with under-developed nations who can't withstand the sudden economic change.

      by nature, the conservative position is to continue doing things that have been working (or they think should be). well, up until 9/11, getting a significant amount of petroleum from Saudi Arabia was working just fine. the CIA and other government organizations were able to contain the remote consequences of disproportionate growth in under-developed petroleum exporters.

      also by nature the conservative's position is American superiority. it doesn't matter if people are upset somewhere else; we're concerned with what matters to Americans. again, up until 9/11 this mindset was also somewhat justified because the consequences of others wouldn't affect us. that's obviously not true anymore.

      Prior to 9/11, not only was the US supporting the Saudi regime, but it had troops stationed in Saudi Arabia- which it had promised to remove after the first Gulf War conflict. The combination of these elements gave Bin Laden the motivation and support for his Jihad against the US. So the 2nd Iraq war was fought, among several reasons other than WMD (a fabrication), to get troops out of Saudi Arabia and into somewhere else that the world could see as a justified place for the US military to be (its most immediate enemy). we know how much of a failure of imagination this was, and now it's too late.

      we can't undo the damage that has been done to the region, to US support there and abroad, and the support that this has given terrorist groups everywhere. and now it just comes down to differing opinions between liberals and conservatives on US involvement in the cleanup and how we can prevent the wounds we've sown to become infected any further. the conservative position seems to be we should stay and clean up the mess, and the liberal position seems to be, we've done enough damage, let's just get out before we make things inevitably worse.

      i'm just hoping that people acknowledge the lesson to learn from all of this, which is, when/if an attack occurs, we cannot retaliate with the military. terrorism should be treated as an international crime with its source in the economy, and investigated and prosecuted as such.

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      • 88Mariner
        My dick is smaller
        • Nov 2006
        • 7128

        #4
        Re: Republicans & Al Qaeda: Two Peas in a Pod

        I think you're entire post could be summarized in a four words; "Blowback is a bitch"
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        • sammwalk
          Gold Gabber
          • Jun 2004
          • 769

          #5
          Re: Republicans & Al Qaeda: Two Peas in a Pod

          Originally posted by 88Mariner
          I think you're entire post could be summarized in a four words; "Blowback is a bitch"
          yep.

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          • thesightless
            Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
            • Jun 2004
            • 13567

            #6
            Re: Republicans & Al Qaeda: Two Peas in a Pod

            we could have avoided this problem if we just bombed everything between turkey and china to dust. problem solved. cheaper oil, no violence. no islamic fundy crap (outside of africa, but who cares about that place).

            /endsarcasm
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            • ddr
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              • Jun 2004
              • 7006

              #7
              Re: Republicans & Al Qaeda: Two Peas in a Pod

              Originally posted by thesightless
              we could have avoided this problem if we just bombed everything between turkey and china to dust. problem solved. cheaper oil, no violence. no islamic fundy crap (outside of africa, but who cares about that place).

              /endsarcasm
              gotta agree with you there.

              people have been fighting over that area for thousands of years and will continue to, nobody will ever control it 100%. us even setting foot there was an obvious bad decision.
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