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  • shosh
    Banned
    • Jun 2004
    • 4668

    my last 2c before election day

    1¢. I voted today. I took my sample ballot, they scanned it and that was it. I asked them if they wanted to check my ID and they said I'm fine and they let me in the booth. So now I can go to all my friends' homes, steal their ballots and vote for them too. Maybe I can find some in my neighbor's mailboxes too. JK obviously, but I was bothered by the lack of verification.

    2¢. Unfortunately, elections nowadays are just over-glorified and over-publicized popularity contests. Whoever is able to run a better campaign will end up winning, regardless of views, agendas, issues, etc. So in this aspect I will give it to obama'08, they did run a much better campaign than McCain’s people. Not only did Obama’s people make all the right choices and push the right buttons, McCain’s people managed to make the wrong choices and push the wrong buttons. I think that maybe if McCain’s camp wouldn’t have done anything at all (except put up signs and ads with only his name and picture), they might have had a better turnout. I felt as though McCain had a campaign aimed at pleasing the conservatives, instead of winning the votes of the undecided voters and even some of the democrats. Starting with selecting palin - she did wonders for the R camp, but everyone else, the D and the independents thought of it and her as a joke, bad choice, hitler, evil, stupid, retarded, and so on. Then the attacks on Obama, although I find them relevant and important, and so do other conservatives, obviously the voters who needed to be won over didn’t give a shit about that and cared more about other pertinent issues. And when speaking of the economy (which mac touched on only briefly - another bad move) they pointed out what Obama was going to do and how bad that was, instead of pointing out specifically what mac would do (not that I believe that any of them can do shit). Obama's people ran a perfect campaign: they were able to push the smears aside and trivialized them, they hit mac skillfully exactly where it did most damage, and told the voters (democrats, undecided, and even some republicans) exactly what they wanted to hear. Bullshit or not, empty promises or not, he told them he would give them the world and they ate that shit up. Mac's camp tried to smear Obama but did so in a very unconvincing manner, focused more on Obama than the voters, and didn’t touch on the correct and necessary issues. The ads were poor, the speeches were bad, the interviews horrible, the entire campaign management deplorable.

    Bottom line: Obama is a great salesman and, as cliché as it may sound, he just wanted it more. Therefore in McCain/Palin's name I concede the presidential election.
  • Jenks
    I'm kind of a big deal.
    • Jun 2004
    • 10250

    #2
    Re: my last 2¢ before election day

    shosh in rational post shocker!!! :O

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    • chloe harris
      Platinum Poster
      • Jun 2004
      • 1021

      #3
      Re: my last 2¢ before election day

      thats cool imo.

      bummer they didn't check you out more. im interested to hear other stories now about what its like
      pillow humping rules.

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      • Jenks
        I'm kind of a big deal.
        • Jun 2004
        • 10250

        #4
        Re: my last 2¢ before election day

        Originally posted by shosh
        Bullshit or not, empty promises or not, he told them he would give them the world and they ate that shit up.
        ...and at the end of the day, that's a really powerful thing. everyone has been saying obama is giving people false hope, hey, it's still hope, and that hope wether false or not is real and it instills confidence. confidence is something this country hasn't had in a long fking time, and we're way overdue for a big fking shot of it right in the arm. the illusion of happiness is powerful. sure, i want the pipe dream, the ideal independent candidate, the fresh ideas, the guy that's not a politician, but that isn't happening this election, so i'll take the guy that has a big brain, gets the country fired up, and makes everyone feel good again. say what you want about obama, but he has single-handedly gotten millions upon millions of young people interested in politics, and that's awesome. i'm sick of the elderly deciding elections. i can't wait to see what the final voter turnout is going to be- they're talking 150million. sweet. it's nice that people give a shit again. the fact that we argue like this is a good thing (minus a lot of the dumbass comments.) 8 years ago, nobody gave a shit, and that's why we ended up where we are now. never again imo.

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        • 88Mariner
          My dick is smaller
          • Nov 2006
          • 7128

          #5
          Re: my last 2¢ before election day

          I believe in Harvey Dent. There would be some great discussion on the parallels between Dark Knight and Obama in the context of wanting to give the city 'hope' and what the meant.
          you could put an Emfire release on for 2 minutes and you would be a sleep before it finishes - Chunky

          it's RA. they'd blow their load all over some stupid 20 minute loop of a snare if it had a quirky flange setting. - Tiddles

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          • shosh
            Banned
            • Jun 2004
            • 4668

            #6
            Re: my last 2¢ before election day

            Originally posted by Jenks
            shosh in rational post shocker!!! :O
            Originally posted by chloe harris
            thats cool imo.

            bummer they didn't check you out more. im interested to hear other stories now about what its like
            wait wat?

            EDIT: nvm i didnt understand what you were referring to at first.

            Originally posted by Jenks
            ...and at the end of the day, that's a really powerful thing. everyone has been saying obama is giving people false hope, hey, it's still hope, and that hope wether false or not is real and it instills confidence. confidence is something this country hasn't had in a long fking time, and we're way overdue for a big fking shot of it right in the arm. the illusion of happiness is powerful. sure, i want the pipe dream, the ideal independent candidate, the fresh ideas, the guy that's not a politician, but that isn't happening this election, so i'll take the guy that has a big brain, gets the country fired up, and makes everyone feel good again. say what you want about obama, but he has single-handedly gotten millions upon millions of young people interested in politics, and that's awesome. i'm sick of the elderly deciding elections. i can't wait to see what the final voter turnout is going to be- they're talking 150million. sweet. it's nice that people give a shit again. the fact that we argue like this is a good thing (minus a lot of the dumbass comments.) 8 years ago, nobody gave a shit, and that's why we ended up where we are now. never again imo.
            and this is where i would normally start my shit talking on obama, but i give up! he's feeding us shit, we'll eat shit

            also, i cant wait for the election to be over. im sick and tired of this whole circus freak show

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            • toasty
              Sir Toastiness
              • Jun 2004
              • 6585

              #7
              Re: my last 2¢ before election day

              Originally posted by shosh
              1¢. I voted today. I took my sample ballot, they scanned it and that was it. I asked them if they wanted to check my ID and they said I'm fine and they let me in the booth. So now I can go to all my friends' homes, steal their ballots and vote for them too. Maybe I can find some in my neighbor's mailboxes too. JK obviously, but I was bothered by the lack of verification.
              Originally posted by chloe harris
              bummer they didn't check you out more. im interested to hear other stories now about what its like
              At least in MO, the sample ballot that you receive from the Board of Elections constitutes confirmation that you're registered to vote, and the fact that it is addressed to you and you have it in your hand is evidence that you are the addressee. It seems ridiculous, but something like 5% of registered voters don't have a state-issued photo ID -- not a huge number, but enough to make a difference...

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              • neoee
                Platinum Poster
                • Jun 2004
                • 1266

                #8
                Re: my last 2c before election day

                My ballot still goes to my parents house. Once my dad accidentally filled mine out and sent it in, so I used his to vote. The elections office actually contacted me because the signature (on my ballot) didn't match my registration card. I would have never expected them to be checking in the first place. Not sure if this occurs in every state but unless a mail thief knows what your signature looks like they've got a pretty good countermeasure in place.
                "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin Franklin

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                • shosh
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 4668

                  #9
                  Re: my last 2c before election day

                  Originally posted by neoee
                  My ballot still goes to my parents house. Once my dad accidentally filled mine out and sent it in, so I used his to vote. The elections office actually contacted me because the signature (on my ballot) didn't match my registration card. I would have never expected them to be checking in the first place. Not sure if this occurs in every state but unless a mail thief knows what your signature looks like they've got a pretty good countermeasure in place.
                  but you were able to vote in your dad's place with no problems, right? thats the issue im referring to.

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                  • Huggie Smiles
                    Anyone have Styx livesets?
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 11836

                    #10
                    Re: my last 2c before election day

                    someone has hijacked Shoshs [ms] log-in!!
                    ....Freak in the morning, Freak in the evening, aint no other Freak like me thats breathing....




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                    • shosh
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 4668

                      #11
                      Re: my last 2c before election day

                      Originally posted by Huggie Smiles
                      someone has hijacked Shoshs [ms] log-in!!
                      lol, nope unfortunately.

                      i still think we are fucked for having obama as a president, but this race is over and obama just had a better run campaign

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                      • i!!ustrious
                        I got some N64 Games Yo!!
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 12308

                        #12
                        Re: my last 2c before election day

                        Originally posted by shosh

                        2¢. Unfortunately, elections nowadays are just over-glorified and over-publicized popularity contests.
                        ^win. nowadays, could it be possible to draw a hypothetical correspondence between the US presidential elections, to the elections held for the student body council in high schools? not sure who the administration at high schools would relate to though.

                        just a lil ponder. feelin a bit strange b4 i vote.
                        (((( }-d|-__-|b-{ ))))

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                        • neoee
                          Platinum Poster
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1266

                          #13
                          Re: my last 2c before election day

                          Originally posted by shosh
                          but you were able to vote in your dad's place with no problems, right? thats the issue im referring to.
                          Actually no, he was also called by the elections office. Sorry for not stating that, I thought it was implied. IIRC, it was handled on the same phone call since the number on my registration card is also my parents number. I just happened to over there for lunch when they called.

                          I have quite a bit of trust in the paper ballot system. I am far more concerned about the electronic voting machines.
                          "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin Franklin

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                          • toasty
                            Sir Toastiness
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 6585

                            #14
                            Re: my last 2c before election day

                            ^^yeah, here, your signature does have to match the one they have on file, too, so that's another cross-check.

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                            • toasty
                              Sir Toastiness
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 6585

                              #15
                              Re: my last 2c before election day

                              how did I know that this oddly lucid post wouldn't, in fact, be your last 2c?

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