Deadmau5 hates DJ's

[Weizy]

Re: Deadmau5 hates DJ's

Well this topic did spur some interesting banter. I still don't believe this and I still maintain he is damn good producer. the takeover of laptop djing is inevitable, but those that think outside of the box and find their own way will be the jocks who stick around for the long haul.

[88Mariner]

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the laptop is a tool, nothing more. it sucks no souls and it does not make things sound worse. (well, depending on the artist's interface)

sasha's problem has nothing to do with his laptop.

ableton/traktor will do more for djing than two decks and a mixer could ever hope to accomplish. when its all said and done, we won't have djs anymore, we'll have composers. composers who use pre fabricated music to create live musical experiences. it will be more than djing. Im sure djing will exist in some form, but im pretty sure the big guys will all end up being called composers.

less is better when more is too much. the scene existed for well over 12 years before people started to take cd's into thier set, and only in the last 4 when laptops were being introduced. are you suggesting the experience now with laptops is superior to the years before simply because you can tweak a few sounds and such? reallllly? has it gotten so bad that laptop gimmickry is necessary for a good set?

why do you need to accomplish more? why isn't playing tracks just as they are good enough?

Why is someone like GirlTalk better than people who still use vinyl?

[DIDI]

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Wow, I don't know what to say.....he has always seemed like such a genuine, down to earth guy.....I find it really hard to believe he even said any of this. Has anyone checked to see if his website or anything like that has a reaction/statement to this?

Ahh, a voice of reason

This hasn't gone as badly as other forums which says good things about MS For some reason Deadmau5 has become a public whipping boy, and horror of horrors he has had the nerve to defend himself on occasion. Which is why I have quite a lot of respect for him, and he comes on as himself against all those brave little men hiding behind user names. Every forum seems to have a Deadmau5 hate thread !!

It's just ridiculous !! The first one that came up was "all sounding the same" line, Eric Pryda anyone ?? Quite a lot of really good produces have a signature sound!! Next, how would you like it if as a producer you had someone coming after you at your gigs parodying your work ?? Yet Deadmau5 was seen as the bad guy for objecting [after months of being nice] when he had a no talent stalker doing the same to him. !!

Everyone screaming at him for supposedly ripping off the Clockwork Orange theme, FFS it was a 16th c funereal dirge.!!

We even had a really ridiculous one here, where some one put up a video of a skinny guy with hat leaping up onto a Dj stage and knocking all the equipment of the front ! It clearly said on the video who it was, [Not Deadmau5] and someone pointed this out straight way. But we still got all these posts saying what an idiot Deadmau5 is!!

Far from hating Djs the night I saw him he spent quite a bit of time chatting to our up and coming Djs.

[pr0ficient]

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what a fool

if people began to share his view on djing he def wouldn't be making any money from his productions anymore!

he's entitled to his own opinion, but publicly saying something negative like that towards his largest customer base is always a BAD career move!

[pr0ficient]

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Ahh, a voice of reason

This hasn't gone as badly as other forums which says good things about MS For some reason Deadmau5 has become a public whipping boy, and horror of horrors he has had the nerve to defend himself on occasion. Which is why I have quite a lot of respect for him, and he comes on as himself against all those brave little men hiding behind user names. Every forum seems to have a Deadmau5 hate thread !!

I think he should be far less concerned when this small group of random wannabe producers criticize him in online forums and more concerned with what goes on in real life. From various interviews I've seen & read with the man it seems like he takes this shit much more seriously than most other producers.

He seems very concerned about pleasing these random kids online and gaining their respect when he should be most concerned with pleasing the people who buy his tracks and who come and pack the dance floor every time he plays!

[Aleks_B]

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There are a couple +12 threads on tranceaddict on this topic. deadmau5 posted in one of them and apparently he was joking with the irish press when they asked him what he thought about "this dj and that dj...." .


...oh and on the whole digital laptop dj'ing versus the 2 decks and a mixer, im not sure if i will be maintaining my very old school stance for much longer. As opposed to what 88Mariner was arguing; that the laptop style removes the dj's crowd interaction, I had the exact opposite experience a couple of weeks ago when I threw down a set on a friend's tracktor settup at an afterparty and i actually felt like i was liberated in the sense that i could play tracks from totally different genres with ease and tell a unique story, whereas with my standard cdj's, that would have been next to impossible and not as smooth whilst drinking shots and taking photos in the booth with the ladies. I just see it now as a presentation. Alot if it could be pre-cued and yeah i guess its cheating in a way, but the presentation of the tracks you want to play in the set can be more clean and dramatic. It also allows you to party, without loosing your mix. Cause afterall its nice to be able to look away from the mixer for a bit and enjoy the party. I learned to mix the traditional way, but i can now see the digital remixing age is going to be good for the music, just the same way digital audio workstations ( like Pro Tools have actually liberated the artists/engineers) I think many of the dj's that have recently made the switch are just trying to re-invent themselves but may just be getting burnt out over the years and that may be the reason their sets are not what they used to be.

[i!!ustrious]

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DJs love Deadmau5

Deejays hate Deadmau5

lol who cares!

[superchibisan]

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less is better when more is too much. the scene existed for well over 12 years before people started to take cd's into thier set, and only in the last 4 when laptops were being introduced. are you suggesting the experience now with laptops is superior to the years before simply because you can tweak a few sounds and such? reallllly? has it gotten so bad that laptop gimmickry is necessary for a good set?

why do you need to accomplish more? why isn't playing tracks just as they are good enough?

Why is someone like GirlTalk better than people who still use vinyl?

because. why WOULDN'T you want to do more? how can you seriously be content with playing one song after another and having to stand around while your 4 minute breakdown gives you nothing to mix with?

laptops liberate the DJ from the usual shortcomings of normal mixing. there are no limits and there is always an option.

its not a gimmick. if you're using a laptop you better be doing a LOT more than just tweaking a *few* sounds. thats why you have the laptop. i tweak a few sounds when i dj traditionally. i fucking devastate tracks when im playing on my laptop.

there is nothing wrong with the traditional dj setup. but there is also nothing wrong with wanting to provide a better musical experience for your listeners either.

[i!!ustrious]

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i say try to intigrate and use all of them. ie. turntables, cdjs and laptops etc. makes for a synthetic and magical performance. no?

[simonr]

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Once you start going to laptops your beatmatching skills go ... some cheeky bastard out this on the net:



Don't do it John !!

[superchibisan]

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yes, the optimal situation would be to use all the formats in one performance. also another thing im working on!

and i haven't lost any beatmatching skillz since switching to a laptop. its like riding a bike, only waaaaaaaaaaay easier.

[bobjuice]

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i think laptops, fx boxes etc all have their place and can all add to a performance (in moderation) but it seems ableton and the like are so advanced the pc is doin as much as the operator . I've hooked up my kaoss pad before to play live but found it a distraction in the end - yeah you can make some fucked up sounds and warp your tunes beyond recognition but are you really improving them? If so then get in the studio and cut your own versions and see how they sell.
If not then accept that playing records is playing records and just do that.I like playing records - that's why i buy them strangely enough...
I'd rather pay to hear sasha/digweed/hernan play a load of other people's tunes (whatever format) than deadmoo5e playing his live set but that's just me...........
if he really said this then i think he's a cock - but i guess he probably didn't..

[chuckc]

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I threw down a set on a friend's tracktor settup at an afterparty and i actually felt like i was liberated in the sense that i could play tracks from totally different genres with ease and tell a unique story, whereas with my standard cdj's, that would have been next to impossible and not as smooth whilst drinking shots and taking photos in the booth with the ladies. I just see it now as a presentation. Alot if it could be pre-cued and yeah i guess its cheating in a way, but the presentation of the tracks you want to play in the set can be more clean and dramatic. It also allows you to party, without loosing your mix. Cause afterall its nice to be able to look away from the mixer for a bit and enjoy the party. .

^^^exactly why it is completey freakin lame to use a laptop. what talent deost that take.....u might as well throw a prerecorded cd in your cd player mate...then u can party all you want LOFL


its a joke. any moron can dj now.. the true definition of a dj is going extinct with all this laptop garbage

[88Mariner]

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because. why WOULDN'T you want to do more? how can you seriously be content with playing one song after another and having to stand around while your 4 minute breakdown gives you nothing to mix with?

laptops liberate the DJ from the usual shortcomings of normal mixing. there are no limits and there is always an option.

its not a gimmick. if you're using a laptop you better be doing a LOT more than just tweaking a *few* sounds. thats why you have the laptop. i tweak a few sounds when i dj traditionally. i fucking devastate tracks when im playing on my laptop.

there is nothing wrong with the traditional dj setup. but there is also nothing wrong with wanting to provide a better musical experience for your listeners either.

so, what you're suggesting is, laptops liberate a dj from being a dj. incredible.

[chuckc]

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using a laptop to dj is for lazy mofo that dont want to use there head, i guess it allows you to get more wacked out. LOL. very sad