Cabinet Position for McCain

[toasty]

Evidently, there is some consideration for that. Might be too fresh right now, but if Obama were to reach across the aisle and try to pull McCain into the fold, though, what would be a good fit for him? He couldn't make him Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State, but Secretary of Veteran's Affairs, perhaps?

Would be great to see something like that happen, not sure if there's any precedent for it or not. Senator to lower-level cabinet post might be a step down, though...

[thesightless]

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pubcli pandering not only IMO, butpure fact.

[MJDub]

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not sure if there's any precedent for it or not.

Lincoln.

[toasty]

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pubcli pandering not only IMO, butpure fact.

Man you are such an unflinching cynic. Suspend your disbelief here for a moment and just play along with me -- what if Obama were to come into office and say, "You know what, I want to actually govern in a bipartisan way, and I want to actually hear the voice of opposition when I make decisions." What better way to both send that message and actually do it than to appoint his former rival to a cabinet-level post.

[shosh]

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Man you are such an unflinching cynic. Suspend your disbelief here for a moment and just play along with me -- what if Obama were to come into office and say, "You know what, I want to actually govern in a bipartisan way, and I want to actually hear the voice of opposition when I make decisions." What better way to both send that message and actually do it than to appoint his former rival to a cabinet-level post.

he wants to govern in a bi-partisan way and then he picks rahm emmanuel (sp) as his chief of staff.

[thesightless]

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you know just as well as i do that modern US governemnt will prevent this for a variety of reasons.

1. clean sweep of the congress.
2. party heads and party orders (even presidents follow thier party orders)
3. still have a conservative supreme court.
4. there isnt any money left.
5. congrssional ineptitude.

stop being brainwashed toasty, there is no change coming. just a mentally retarded president leaving office and being replaced by the greatest salesman of our generaltion backed by millions of people who couldnt hold a professional job if there lives depended on it.

[thesightless]

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plus he cant fix the economy when the economy is going to battle everythign he tries to do by simply taking the money away. watch. markets down and once teh auto manufacturers run out of their bail money, more unemployement.

[toasty]

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look at yourself. I float the idea that Obama might -- not will, but might -- actually make an effort to fulfill his promise to pursue bipartisan compromise, and you mock the mere idea. You have become a caricature of the very hyperpartisan hacks you pretend to hate.

[speciale]

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mcCain is not reaching across the isle. He is in the isle. Picking Newt would be reaching across the isle.

[CactusBeats]

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he wants to govern in a bi-partisan way and then he picks rahm emmanuel (sp) as his chief of staff.

I think this is a naive statement in the fact that I take it your assumption is that he picked Rahm Emanuel to pound down the Congressional Republicans (let me know if I am wrong on this). What if, he picked Emanuel to actually clamp down on his own party because, as a very adept and savvy politician, he wants to rule from the center, and not let the left-wing of the Democratic Congress try to ruin his presidency by ramming their legislation through Congress. Emanuel is a centrist, need I remind you. Obama saw what ruling from the center did for President Clinton and I think that is exactly what he intends to do.

[toasty]

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What if, he picked Emanuel to actually clamp down on his own party

This is actually a really good point. Rahm is definitely known as an enforcer and someone that gets shit done, but that's referring to interparty stuff. He's the party heavy, sort of an unofficial party whip, but he's not an ultraliberal guy.

[thesightless]

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look at yourself. I float the idea that Obama might -- not will, but might -- actually make an effort to fulfill his promise to pursue bipartisan compromise, and you mock the mere idea. You have become a caricature of the very hyperpartisan hacks you pretend to hate.

might he try, yes. might GWB cure cancer tomorrow, sure. might isnt getting it done. and our position both domestically and internationally is so far beyond trouble status we dont need hope, we need a drill sergeant.

maybe i am a caricature , but im an equeal oppurtunity hater. the best thing out of tuesday is that the do nothing congress is gone. one way or another something will get passed.

effort does not equal result. i can keep trying to fly unaided, giving it all, it aint gonna happen. take your silly hope for a cure to our nations ills and sell it to someone less intelligent. oh wait, that was the last 21 months.

sorry i advocate an alternative option to the two that have gutted our country. but dont worry folks, barak is gonna fix everything, right after the industries fail, wall street tanks, and unemplyement rises.

you hold on to these sales pitches from politicians who have done nothing but prove thier incapacity to drive the bus over time. but ok, he MIGHT pick a republican who alienated himself from his own party. go pick some vile fuck form the south who still beleives in segregation. thats crossing the lines. mccain is a liberal right winger who couldnt find his way out of a cardboard box, evidenced by him picking hitler reincarnate as a running mate.

take your mouths off his cock and investigate HOW he will try to do things in terms of execution of legal reform, stimulus, labor reform, taxation etc. ill tell ya how, he is gonna rely on the same people who have been in power for the last 2 decades or so.

[shosh]

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This is actually a really good point. Rahm is definitely known as an enforcer and someone that gets shit done, but that's referring to interparty stuff. He's the party heavy, sort of an unofficial party whip, but he's not an ultraliberal guy.

he's also not bi-partisan, an 'across the isle' guy either

[toasty]

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might he try, yes. etc. etc.

You're already chastising the guy without even giving him the opportunity to fuck things up first. It's a fait accompli as far as you're concerned. Have an open mind, ffs. How you walk around day to day with that soul-crushing pessimism, I'll never understand.

[shosh]

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You're already chastising the guy without even giving him the opportunity to fuck things up first. It's a fait accompli as far as you're concerned. Have an open mind, ffs. How you walk around day to day with that soul-crushing pessimism, I'll never understand.

im starting out hoping he wont fuck shit up. and i actually believe that maybe for the first term he wont, so he can get re-elected. i dont think or hope he will do anything good but i pray he wont fuck anything up too bad.

btw, i loled @ change.gov