A SAD, SAD DAY...

[sacredawe78]

humans at strife and moral perfection are not mutally exclusive...but that is what you were saying

[Balanc3]

i will. thank you.

i am very excited for a bright and solid future.

i meant as a coutry im sure your future is full fun in oregon

just kidding boss

Dude Oregon is an awesome state if you've visited. Comeon Portland is awesome, snowboarding on Mt Hood year round, some of the best kb's ever, and cool people. Im jealous of Asdf being out west, cause he's much better off than Florida.

[Balanc3]

the only thing that hes right about is that you moronic country re elected a guy who has run 2 businesses into the ground driven your dollar ridiculously low and killed millions of your people for an unjust cause. enjoy the next few years of your life, they will be interesting

I used to hear many libs complain about how Bush ran the Texas economy in the ground and that Crawford, Tex was proof, because they were the anti-Bush. Well guess what, just like the rest of the country spoke... so did Texas!

[Yao]

I don't think anyone here is being fatalistic, rather realistic. Your views are admirable Sacred, but let me tell you little story:

I'm an Africanistics student, and used to be quite idealistic in my ideas, eg: I wanted to do something about the situation in Africa. During my time at University, I gradually came to understand that changes can occur, but they usually take some time. The bigger the change (or the more radical), the longer it takes. That is natural.

So, I've made up my mind about this, and decided that I will still try and do my good thing for Africa. But I'll keep my goals realistic, and don't expect to see a whole different Africa when I die. Maybe, just maybe, I can plant some seeds in people's minds that will in the end contribute their part to Africa's future, hopefully a brighter one.
I'll try to write stories about the continent and if I find the courage, they will be stories about things people oughtta know, but never hear. I'll make pictures of things they don't want you to see.
Next summer I'll be visiting Ivory Coast to see if I can stand the heat :wink: Rebels are threatening to resume fighting there, so we'll see...

Point is: try to make the world better as much as you want, but don't try to move Mount Everest with your bare hands man. Keep it reel, keep it small, and get it done. And don't expect to see any big changes in your lifetime, 'cause you'll end up very, very dissapointed.

peace!

To any of the mods: Can we get maybe one or two black smileys? I'd really like that...African smileyz.

[sacredawe78]

yao,

thank you for sharing your experiences with me...i respect what you are doing in Africa...i know that it is very very messed over there right now, especially in the Sudan..please tell me more of your experiences

however, with respect to your analysis of what ive said, ill say that despite my lofty ambitions, i ultimately am only making a small difference here...so i already have achieved what you suggested....but i cannot be guided by convenience...that would be ignorance to some extent

you seem to have a very spiritual/tactful undertstanding of how to deal with frustration...and I agree to some degree...but i dont think that the weight of the Truth, especially when it comes to moral chaos, can be preserved or contained to chew off small bits at once....i think that the net result of my actions here will be too small as it is...i think it is up to me decide if i would like to harness the burden of eyeing such overwhelminginly difficult ideas and i do..because im fucking tired of human suffering and the destruction of our world

thanks again though, let me know how your efforts are with Africa...and fill me in with new information

good night

[max]

nice to see that not all americans are farmers..

(sorry well for that expression, but here from switzerland seems to be)

[PhAntoM MeNaCe]

YESSSSS!!! The day I sat in my room on my bed staring up at the ceiling dreaming about for months....SWEET VICTORY! First of all MAX, you think its nice to see not all americans are farmers?? Hmmm, did you just come out of your mothers womb or maybe you were abducted from a UFO, you the know the 'greys' the ones with the big eyes and big heads...they just sit there and stare at you...wake up from your sleep friend. America is the most industrialized nation in the universe as we know it, so lets not get carried away with any stereotypes...now go hold your breath and see how long you can hold it for. Secondly, for Sacredawe78, I really dont need to say much, you self destruct with every word you mutter with a lisp, you've been divorced from reality friend. The white hooded family who abducted Elizabeth Smart is now your spiritual family. You are one with them. Be at peace brother, and descent into heaven with your fascist friends.

Ok now back to the real world. Funny how 90% of the people on this forum discuss politics putting conservatives in an isolated minority group. But did any of you stop for a second to look at whos side most of the country is on? Not yours. You liberals talk about 'change', well change is happening, at lightning speed, right underneath your noses. Wake up and smell the coffee gentleman, and you too sacredawe78. Because if you dont see the trend of the future, which is clearly conservative values with very very hight patriotism...room for people like sacredawe is becoming scarce. Hispanics love Bush, southerners love Bush, mid westerners love Bush, Floridians love Bush, OhIO loves Bush, religious freaks loves Bush, women and people with family values love Bush. Sacredawe78 said he hates america, and hates anyone who voted for Bush, this clearly show that you are the wrong guy, in the wrong country, at the wrong time. Now go see how long you can hold your head underwater.

[Jenks]

[FM]

indeed... I see the trend of the future...and man oh man does it suck.

[viceroy]

4 more years of dividing this country apart
4 more years of increase to the nation's already trillion dollar deficit.
4 more years of budget cuts of programs that will truly benefit our
nation's people, i.e science and family planning.
four more years of incredulous lies, distortion and cover up.
4 more years of negative relations with international powers (otherthan saudi arabia of course)
4 more years of tax cuts that will not benefit 75% of the american people.
4 more years of censorship of our media and public information.

[Yao]

Re: A SAD, SAD DAY...

Oh well, don't get worked up too much over that Viceroy...here we have a PM that's licking Bush's unwashed arse and who looks like a bad Harry Potter imitation! And he talks like Kermit the Frog, too. What kind of sick joke is that?



To Phantom, who still lacks any tact in adressing his fellow forum-dwellers: a girlfriend of mine put it like this: "euh only 51% loves bush, and considering only half of america took the time to get of their lazy overweight asses that is only about 25% of all americans".

She is a bit overweight too, so don't take it personally

[Garrick]

but wait, if the average of the majority of america votes and its 51/49 going in bush's favor, you are assuming that the portion that didn't vote will vote entirely for kerry. nope, you're wrong. if the avg of the majority of america voted for bush, you have to assume the the portion that didn't vote would be pretty much the same outcome.

[Yao]

Re: A SAD, SAD DAY...

Mwaahh...don't know. I think it's still the minorities dat had the lower turnout, and they would lean towards Kerry I think. Although I doubt they would've made up those 3.5 mln votes difference...

And even though I am very anti-Bush, I can imagine enough reasons why so many people still voted for him, the main reason being that people want a strong leader. Bush may be a wanker, but he's a strong wanker. He may be wrong in his foreign policies, but he stands tall and proud fucking things up. That, he does. And Bush still has bigger balls than Harry Potter over here..(read my last post).

[Garrick]

yeah yeah... i don't want to see bush's balls, so i'll take you word on that one :wink:

i just felt like being an ass and replying.

[grafxkid]