Does electronic music change the way you think?

[TheMightyGreg]

Re: Does electronic music change the way you think?

I listen to all types of music and play guitar .. so i've always been more interested in instrumentals.

I spent ages listening to jazz and that really opened up my mind to what was going on musically within the group and I began to appreciate piano, drums and bass rather than the lead instruments. This has made me appreciate the components of EDM more.

Usually its a beautiful/clever/dark melody, chord/key change, or musical interaction or even a sound that catches my attention ... or it can be a driving build up.

The thing I also love about EDM is its unpredictable and new, you never know whats coming next or where you're taken - particularly when a great DJ is on top of his game ... and, even though it may just be playing records, that improvisational approach is similar to jazz in its own unique way.

Also jazz has standards which are constantly re-interpretted , EDM has classics which are remixed.

Check out the late and truly great Esbjorn Svensson Trio - a genuis (and thoroughly nice person) who died in 2008 leaving a chasm behind that in musical terms will never be filled. Its been a horrible year for losing people.

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This is absolutely stunning. Which album is this track from Simon?

[kassios]

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I didnt like jazz till i took some appreciation of jazz classes at college and read about it........then i attended some live concerts and really loved it!!!

I love herbie hancock



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[minimal]

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simonr, thanks for the post, its been a couple of months since I last was in the mood for jazz.

I think any kind of music is able to change the way you think, Stravinsky opened my mind with his 20 minutes long compositions, Firebird or the Rite of Spring. Miles Davis literally drove me a couple of steps closer to madness with his Bitches Brew album. I think I I'm only able to appreciatte EDM because I was raised listening to all kinds of music and I believe EDM to be a recollection of it all.

I love house music, It makes me feel alive.

[|Thrax|]

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I'll have to wait for youtube to get back up before I can watch those videos.

I personally blame all this digital music for my musical inability to just sit and enjoy a cd. I get so much stuff and can't spend hours listening everyday like I could when I was 17. I get into my car with my 80 gig Ipod that is all but 4 gig's full and can't figure out what to try to listen to for that particular trip. ARGHHHH! I miss the days when I could only carry 6-7 CD's at a time.

gosh. i cant practically tell you how much i agree with that.
I used to have 3 x 200cd binders in my car all the time..

now I have a 20gb, 2gb, 8gb ipod/nano's and i just scroll aimlessly finally landing on a mix ive heard 10 times before..

the endless scrollwheel........

[simonr]

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This is absolutely stunning. Which album is this track from Simon?

The album is "A Strange Place For Snow" ... it was their landmark album Greg. An essential for any music fan.

EST caught my attention with "From Gagarin's Point of View" which floored me and is also recommended for a 1st taste - I caught them every tour since: in a live environment they took things to another level, and their live album "Live In Hamburg" from 2007 catches the magic.

[simonr]

Re: Does electronic music change the way you think?

simonr, thanks for the post, its been a couple of months since I last was in the mood for jazz.

I think any kind of music is able to change the way you think, Stravinsky opened my mind with his 20 minutes long compositions, Firebird or the Rite of Spring. Miles Davis literally drove me a couple of steps closer to madness with his Bitches Brew album. I think I I'm only able to appreciatte EDM because I was raised listening to all kinds of music and I believe EDM to be a recollection of it all.

I love house music, It makes me feel alive.

Got all the Miles box sets - among my favourites is the "In a silent way" 3-disc set: I love putting it on at Christmas time it just seems to fit in with the lights down, the lights on the tree and snow outside. Plus your loved one or a nice glass of vino complements it too !



Miles told John Mclaughlin to play the chords slowly like he was learning them for the 1st time - the simplicity, with the lush keyboards from Joe Zawinul/Herbie Hancock/Chick Corea and Wayne Shortser's haunting Soprano Sax makes this one of the classic jazz crossover albums. The editing process was ground-breaking at the time, and Miles is in fine form too.

[jeffrey collins]

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You also mentioned Allan Holdsworth, his stuff is out there too, give Sonny Sharrock a listen, he was a big influence on Vernon Reid, saw Holdsworth with Frank Gimbale back in the early nineties, there guitar stuff just melts your brain. Last Exit is something worth checking out, a project, Bailey, John Zorn, and Bill Laswell were all in, just recently saw Bill Frisell with Medeski, Martin, and Wood, now that is some fried jazz.

Oh hell bro, you can't mention an experimental guitarist I haven't heard of. I used to actively search that stuff out. And Last Exit was a fucking awesome band that produced some seriously sick stuff Peter Brotzmann is an awesome sax man. Have you ever heard the album Frisell did with Vernon Reid in the last 80's...one of the only experimental albums I can't listen to. It just sounds boring to me.

I absolutely love Holdsworth, to me his playing and music is very spiritual. Especially the music from Wardenclyffe Tower. That album sends me into orbit.

[jeffrey collins]

Re: Does electronic music change the way you think?

Got all the Miles box sets - among my favourites is the "In a silent way" 3-disc set: I love putting it on at Christmas time it just seems to fit in with the lights down, the lights on the tree and snow outside. Plus your loved one or a nice glass of vino complements it too !



Miles told John Mclaughlin to play the chords slowly like he was learning them for the 1st time - the simplicity, with the lush keyboards from Joe Zawinul/Herbie Hancock/Chick Corea and Wayne Shortser's haunting Soprano Sax makes this one of the classic jazz crossover albums. The editing process was ground-breaking at the time, and Miles is in fine form too.

Like it has been said many times. Miles re-invented Jazz a number of times in his life.

Have you ever read his autobiography? AWESOME read, if you are into Jazz you would love it. It's like sitting at Miles' home and hearing him talk about all the shit he's done over the years.

http://www.amazon.com/Miles-Davis/dp/0671725823

[88Mariner]

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pulled out some Jaco stuff today. And one of my old favourites from jazz ensemble, "Donna Lee" which was nearly impossible to play on trombone....

[srbbnd]

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I don't want to bring religion into this topic...However, I have noticed that myself and others who tend to be agnostic/atheist tend to listen to electronic more so than my friends who are not. I could go further into this, but I will leave it at that.

[88Mariner]

Re: Does electronic music change the way you think?

I don't want to bring religion into this topic...However, I have noticed that myself and others who tend to be agnostic/atheist tend to listen to electronic more so than my friends who are not. I could go further into this, but I will leave it at that.

go further. this brings up a number of questions I've come up with over several years.

[simonr]

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Like it has been said many times. Miles re-invented Jazz a number of times in his life.

Have you ever read his autobiography? AWESOME read, if you are into Jazz you would love it. It's like sitting at Miles' home and hearing him talk about all the shit he's done over the years.

http://www.amazon.com/Miles-Davis/dp/0671725823

Read his bio 3 x times ... love reading his interpretation on things. I'm a massive Coltrane fan - the two of them couldn't have been so different, yet they complimented each other so well. The Shorter/Hancock/Williams Q-tet then took it to a whole new level - as Miles said, it was one Mutha of a group.

[TheMightyGreg]

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The album is "A Strange Place For Snow" ... it was their landmark album Greg. An essential for any music fan.

EST caught my attention with "From Gagarin's Point of View" which floored me and is also recommended for a 1st taste - I caught them every tour since: in a live environment they took things to another level, and their live album "Live In Hamburg" from 2007 catches the magic.

Nice one mate - just Amazoned this up. Good holiday listening

[simonr]

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Oh hell bro, you can't mention an experimental guitarist I haven't heard of. I used to actively search that stuff out. And Last Exit was a fucking awesome band that produced some seriously sick stuff Peter Brotzmann is an awesome sax man. Have you ever heard the album Frisell did with Vernon Reid in the last 80's...one of the only experimental albums I can't listen to. It just sounds boring to me.

I absolutely love Holdsworth, to me his playing and music is very spiritual. Especially the music from Wardenclyffe Tower. That album sends me into orbit.

Seen Holdsworth live few times, but always preferred Scott Henderson - the first 3 x Tribal Tech albums, his playing had more breathing space but the same technique.

Frisell is awesome - I caught his trio years ago (having seen him with Naked City) and you hanged on his every note : he's a truly unique guitarist. Some of the David Torn stuffs pretty good.

I'm a big Mike Stern fan too (esp. his early Atlantic records) - seen him a couple of times at the 55-Bar in NYC.

For older stuff Joe Pass is probably the most under-rated of them all - his complete Pacific Jazz box set is sublime http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinf...mber=207-MD-CD

[srbbnd]

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go further. this brings up a number of questions I've come up with over several years.

I would rather not...