Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

[runningman]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

You know something is fucked when the Queen of England decides to close the doors of parliament in Canada only until the new year. I mean what is going to happen between then and now??

[88Mariner]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

here is where they should be put to use




and considering i have been right consistently, im in runningmans boat here, something is gonna happen bad to trigger something else. again.

well yeah. The law of diminishing returns, combined with the nature of the acts combined with the scope of who is doing them, means that it will eventually happen again. (not hurricanes, terrorism). Even the Bush admin (and I think Obama too) has said just as much. It isn't a question of IF, it is a question of WHEN.

[i!!ustrious]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

they should deploy a massive amount of troops along the border of mexico (seriously), as well as recon units in every major port and harbor. just some common sense yah?. shit is unduly wack.

[thesightless]

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i meant my comment in the "pick up a hammer and saw and build" sense. that region still isnt even close. 25000 guys and gals on a regimented daily schedule would get shit done very very quickly. the ARMY can build a bridge in 3 days when needed in a foreign country, they can build a fucking neighborhood when we need it here.

[i!!ustrious]

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^ great point. imagine all the work that we could get done rebuilding this country, if they were put to that imperarive use around the clock. not sure where i will be stationed in the coming years but, i do hope to be stateside for awhile in the usaf. the army is really hurting right now though, we all know that.

[runningman]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

If that was to be the case they should be discharged as ARMY and enlisted in a new organization.

[i!!ustrious]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

the training you get in the military is most certainly not the same as some guild, lol. they can do many tasks. discharge would corrode their proficiency over time -- do to affiliation with a softer establisment.

as far as troops on our soil. idgaf. hard rimes mean tough measures. and i've read all the conspiracy lit., and most all of that speculation and quackery stems from mental illusions, astral glamours, fears and panic. for example, william cooper died because he got too preachy and devotional with his postulates; and not having been thoroughly informed thru hierarchical emissaries. now all the quacky loons are being even more raging/sensational, and they are surely a detriment and festering pool of compulsive confusion. granted we are at a major turning point, and we either make it or not... we grow thru the obstacles. also, im confident in the global/international cooperatives at this point; it just needs some lovin renovation and evermore fine tuning.

[runningman]

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hard times mean tough measures.. ok if that is what we are going to do it is fine with me.

[i!!ustrious]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

well i wouldn't use the cookie cutter tactics of checkers in a game of strategic chess.

[Shpira]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

Dude. And would you have said five plus years ago that a war and occupation of Iraq is also insane? Do you really think we're set for an era of global peace and prosperity?

Are you familiar with what has happened between nations during past periods of widespread economic hardship and chaos?

Yes I am thats kind of the field of my degree...I would say that there are a million reasons why you could predict a war between Russia and the US or China and the US but the fact of the matter is that private individuals stand to loose far too much money if a large scale international conflict breaks out so it simply won't happen. Todays "superpowers" are super economies more than super armies and these economies are far too intertwined and co dependant on the international scene for anything large scale to occur.
You can't predict the future of politics and international relations on the basis of the past the world has changed a lot...its far too complex now for you or anyone else to say that because there is an economic uncertainty there will be a war or because the US supremacy is challenged by Chine there will be a war or whatever. There might be some proxy-wars thats being set up as we speak but a direct conflict will never occur.

[Shpira]

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And believe me when I say if a large scale conflict occurred I would be on the front line faster than you can snap your fingers...I don't stand to loose much and I have no problem with war profiteering and I don't feel that I belong to either side...so I would go for the money. Anyway who wants to live for ever todays world is boring anyways we need something crazy to happen to get us all of our asses and to test our capability of survival...

[runningman]

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well that's it folks.. Shpira you just made my day with your comments. Hey your right your 21 you should join the army.

[Shpira]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

hehe...no. I am of the opinion that joining an army is for idiots...the only reason why anyone should join imo is for adventure...all other reasons freedom liberty etc are nothing more than a perversion of the truth.
If you actually read what I wrote I didn't say I would join an army or that I would actually fight in the war as a foot soldier or that I would pick a side...I said I would go to the front line...purely for personal gain and adventure, no other reason is justifiable especially if we are talking about a war between two superpowers.
I know some will disagree and I know that there are some here who are actually serving in the military forces...thats fine its normal for people to have difference of opinion.
The last war that was morally justifiable was WW2 and the US, Britain and the USSR manage to fuck that up with civilian bombings, a-bombs, mass rapes etc all other wars were fought for personal gain of individuals and companies...so join a military force no thanks.
I don't believe in democracy, freedom or any of that shit. I can't find a single reason why I would join the military.

[Miroslav]

Re: Would it bother you if your Army was on your own Soil??

You can't predict the future of politics and international relations on the basis of the past the world has changed a lot...its far too complex now for you or anyone else to say that because there is an economic uncertainty there will be a war or because the US supremacy is challenged by Chine there will be a war or whatever. There might be some proxy-wars thats being set up as we speak but a direct conflict will never occur.

You'll pardon me if I don't place much faith in your prediction. People have been saying similar things throughout history and have been wrong every time.

Technology changes. People do not change.

I don't believe in democracy, freedom or any of that shit. I can't find a single reason why I would join the military.

Great. Then I guess it will be no big deal to you if some day an enemy force invades your community and takes away all of your freedoms that you currently enjoy and take for granted!

[Shpira]

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"Technology changes. People do not change."

Thats a fair point...but even if you think that you could argue that there is more in favor of small wars than a big one. What I mean to say is that if you start with the premise that most wars (if not all) are fought for national gain i.e. realism etc. Then you could argue that there is more to gained from small wars rather than big ones as business can continue as usual while the government can exercise control over industry and everyday life.


"Great. Then I guess you won't mind having those freedoms and benefits you currently enjoy taken from you in the event that war ever erupts again and your own community comes under attack!"

As for this...I really won't. As I said I think the current system fosters mediocrity, weakness, laziness and stupidity all traits that if nature had its way would be to a certain degree abolished. Furthermore I don't believe that we are "free" I think its all an elaborate illusion put in place for population control...not in some conspiracy theory sense but in the true meaning of population control...through national identities, religion, social groups etc.