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  • feather
    Shanghai ooompa loompa
    • Jul 2004
    • 20894
    #1

    Ok, I've had enough ...

    ... minimal is beginning to suck donkey ass.

    I've said before in a few posts that I'm digging the minimal stuff, the deep stuff, but besides folks like Shonky or Adultnapper or Stephan Hinz, a lot of the minimal sets are turning into bog standard minimal fodder.

    Exhibit A: The recent Audiofly Flying Circus bored the hell out of me, and I used to be a big fan of their Flying Circus.

    I wouldn't mind so much if it's deep or spacey or twisted or just gets me into a 'moment' when I can go, WOW. And the WOW is becoming rarer and rarer, it's more like, hmmm nice ok, whatever. Nothing that's made me sit up and want to hunt down a track name. The only time this month I've tapped my feet or bobbed my head is listening to old prog!

    Some of this minimal shit is all beats, some effects, no momentum, no drive, no rhythm, no bassline. It's fucking anemic. It's flatlining me.

    Sorry I know a lot of you (me included) have embraced the minimal stuff but enough is enough. So whoever is playing this, quit it already and play some proper music that moves people.

    This post brought to you by Space Manoeuvres – Stage One (Separation Remix).

    i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

    Originally posted by Hoff
    a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
    Originally posted by m1sT3rL
    Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

    I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.
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    • AntonyM
      DUDERZ get a life!!!
      • Oct 2004
      • 6415
      #2
      Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

      Yeah, it was done back in 05, jeez some of my old tech house records from 01-02, could fit right into any set today. In my opinion the new hybrid is becoming more progressive, more basslines, a track without a heavy bassline, is unlistenable.
      Originally posted by Shpira
      So came back last night...
      Sven Vath was amazing...he played a god damn killer set...ended up going to that and came to at like 10 am in some whore house in south Amsterdam...no idea how I ended up there...friday was a bit of a blur got really drunk and visited several parties can't remember a whole lot to be honest hehe...saturday was probably the best day that I recall...started up in the nearest coffee shop and going from party to party...beautiful woman, beer and weed...finished the night by taking some shrooms and listening to an amazing elke kleijn set...sunday...i met a nice girl who worked at one of the coffee shops and ended up talking to her for like 6 hours...was supposed to meet her at some DnB party...but instead went for a steak and walked around red light district bars drinking and smoking...monday took it easy went to a coffee shop and took a taxi to airport....

      All in all...I think I will be going back there some time soon
      Originally posted by Illuminate
      Let me get this straight.

      So white-middle class Americans have been told by their Television sets to be fearful of:

      1. Mexicans/Latinos from the South bringing drugs and killings n' shit.
      2. African Americans cause mos def they are raging a race war and want to occupy America like how the plebs occupied Wall St.
      3. Iranians/Afghans/Any one of middle eastern origin to be quite frank, cause you know Islam...
      4. North Koreans/Chinese cause you know everything...

      Am I close here?

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        • jeffrey collins
          Not cool enough
          • Jun 2004
          • 7427
          #3
          Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

          Yo Feather, you forgot to add NO GROOVE. Most of it is just head bobbin music.

          And when it comes to MINIMAL...to me...there is only two names BRINKMANN and HAWTIN.
          Jeffrey Collins: Painter
          My Painting Blog

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            • DIDI
              Aussie Pest
              • Nov 2004
              • 16844
              #4
              Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

              Originally posted by feather
              ... minimal is beginning to suck donkey ass.

              I've said before in a few posts that I'm digging the minimal stuff, the deep stuff, but besides folks like Shonky or Adultnapper or Stephan Hinz, a lot of the minimal sets are turning into bog standard minimal fodder.

              Exhibit A: The recent Audiofly Flying Circus bored the hell out of me, and I used to be a big fan of their Flying Circus.

              I wouldn't mind so much if it's deep or spacey or twisted or just gets me into a 'moment' when I can go, WOW. And the WOW is becoming rarer and rarer, it's more like, hmmm nice ok, whatever. Nothing that's made me sit up and want to hunt down a track name. The only time this month I've tapped my feet or bobbed my head is listening to old prog!

              Some of this minimal shit is all beats, some effects, no momentum, no drive, no rhythm, no bassline. It's fucking anemic. It's flatlining me.

              Sorry I know a lot of you (me included) have embraced the minimal stuff but enough is enough. So whoever is playing this, quit it already and play some proper music that moves people.

              This post brought to you by Space Manoeuvres – Stage One (Separation Remix).
              Couldn't agree more
              Originally posted by TheVrk
              it IS incredible isn't it??
              STILL pumpin out great set after great set...never cheesed out, never sold out, never lost his touch..
              Simply does not get any better than Hernan
              The 'club spirit' is in the soul. It Never Dies

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                • feather
                  Shanghai ooompa loompa
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 20894
                  #5
                  Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                  Originally posted by jeffrey collins
                  Yo Feather, you forgot to add NO GROOVE. Most of it is just head bobbin music.

                  And when it comes to MINIMAL...to me...there is only two names BRINKMANN and HAWTIN.
                  Oh yeah, no groove, that's the word I was looking for when I came up with no rhythm instead ... minimal is turning me dumb.

                  i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

                  Originally posted by Hoff
                  a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
                  Originally posted by m1sT3rL
                  Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

                  I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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                    • Dhar_2
                      meat and potatoes
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 18912
                      #6
                      Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                      Originally posted by feather
                      This post brought to you by Space Manoeuvres – Stage One (Separation Remix).
                      that mix looks sweet!!!

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                        • simonr
                          Transitionator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 8796
                          #7
                          Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                          Originally posted by feather
                          ... minimal is beginning to suck donkey ass.

                          It's fucking anemic. It's flatlining me.
                          +1 for a bloody good post mate ... minimal's like the king's new clothes proverb, everyone says its great coz the person next to them does, when deep dwon we all really want Communicate style productions
                          sigpicSimonR

                          This release was mastered direct from vinyl at the request of the DJ and as such features natural sound characteristics of this medium such as record surface noise.

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                            • cohiba
                              Addiction started
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 367
                              #8
                              Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                              Most minimal was always crap

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                                • KinKyJ
                                  Platinum Poser
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 13438
                                  #9
                                  Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                                  +1 for saying what I was thinking

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                                    • feather
                                      Shanghai ooompa loompa
                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 20894
                                      #10
                                      Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                                      Minimal right now feels like GU19 and dark prog all over again. The scene killed prog when everyone jumped on that bandwagon and produced bog standard prog fodder, which lead to everyone else pronouncing prog dead (yeah I know prog is progressive but still!).

                                      Well let me be the first to say minimal is fucking dying so get back on the prog wagon!

                                      i_want_to_have_sex_with_electronic_music

                                      Originally posted by Hoff
                                      a powerful and insane mothership that occasionally comes commanded by the real ones .. then suck us and makes us appear in the most magical of all lands
                                      Originally posted by m1sT3rL
                                      Oh. My. God. James absolutely obliterated the island tonight. The last time there was so much destruction, Obi Wan Kenobi had to take a seat on the Falcon after the Death Star said "hi and bye" to Leia's homeworld.

                                      I got pics and video. But I will upload them in the morning. I need to smoke this nice phat joint and just close my eyes and replay the amazingness in my head.

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                                        • Dhar_2
                                          meat and potatoes
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 18912
                                          #11
                                          Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                                          Originally posted by feather
                                          Well let me be the first to say minimal is fucking dying so get back on the prog wagon!

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                                            • Localizer
                                              Platinum Poster
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 2021
                                              #12
                                              Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                                              Originally posted by feather
                                              ... minimal is beginning to suck donkey ass.

                                              I've said before in a few posts that I'm digging the minimal stuff, the deep stuff, but besides folks like Shonky or Adultnapper or Stephan Hinz, a lot of the minimal sets are turning into bog standard minimal fodder.

                                              Exhibit A: The recent Audiofly Flying Circus bored the hell out of me, and I used to be a big fan of their Flying Circus.

                                              I wouldn't mind so much if it's deep or spacey or twisted or just gets me into a 'moment' when I can go, WOW. And the WOW is becoming rarer and rarer, it's more like, hmmm nice ok, whatever. Nothing that's made me sit up and want to hunt down a track name. The only time this month I've tapped my feet or bobbed my head is listening to old prog!

                                              Some of this minimal shit is all beats, some effects, no momentum, no drive, no rhythm, no bassline. It's fucking anemic. It's flatlining me.

                                              Sorry I know a lot of you (me included) have embraced the minimal stuff but enough is enough. So whoever is playing this, quit it already and play some proper music that moves people.

                                              This post brought to you by Space Manoeuvres – Stage One (Separation Remix).
                                              I totally agree man. Minimal is just boring. I listened to the same audiofly mix and turned it off -- that's not to say audiofly sucks since audiofly has some sick productions. There was no substance, no emotion, no drive. I felt like a drone sitting on the assembly line. However, if minimal is properly implemented into a diverse set, it'll help take the mix somewhere.
                                              Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
                                              -Bertrand Russell

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                                                • picklemonkey
                                                  Double hoodie beer monster
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 15373
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                                                  but I don't really consider Audiofly minimal. Instead of saying "minimal bores the hell out of me" why not just say "Audiofly bores the hell out of me" and continue to give other people a chance

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                                                    • simonr
                                                      Transitionator
                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 8796
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                                                      Originally posted by feather
                                                      Minimal right now feels like GU19 and dark prog all over again. The scene killed prog when everyone jumped on that bandwagon and produced bog standard prog fodder, which lead to everyone else pronouncing prog dead (yeah I know prog is progressive but still!).
                                                      Are you saying you don't like GU19 ?

                                                      I love that dark stuff
                                                      sigpicSimonR

                                                      This release was mastered direct from vinyl at the request of the DJ and as such features natural sound characteristics of this medium such as record surface noise.

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                                                        • Dhar_2
                                                          meat and potatoes
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 18912
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Ok, I've had enough ...

                                                          Stone the witch!!!!

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