Do you own a Gun?? US citizens

[chloe harris]

Re: Do you own a Gun?? US citizens

^^A weed smoking gun owner will be too lazy too shoot anyone.

haven't you seen those ads where two kids are in some dads office and they are getting stoned and then one of them finds a loaded!!! gun to which he giggles, takes a hit and then shoots his friend.

lol.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7TDSqCjj7w[/YOUTUBE]

[i!!ustrious]

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^

"use the youtube brackets luke!"

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[chloe harris]

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I dunno how.

[i!!ustrious]

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when you are in the post window, look for the youtube button, it is right below the bold B button. click the youtube button. if you scroll over it, it will say "wrap [youtube] tags around selected text." clicking that will make the brackets appear below. then just copy your choice youtube url (not the embedded option though) and paste it in between the brackets, and bingo! it will appear in text at first, but when you "submit reply" it will show the video in the post. not the cleanest directions but hopefully that helps.

[chloe harris]

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you rock cheers!!!!

[DIDI]

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Really? How about you point out those statistics and the breakdown of those statistics per state.

Well I have posted some but you obviously chose not to read them. Really good Harvard study!!

oxymoron. right to bear arms, well regulated militia = compulsory to a, say it with me now, free state.

I can;t actually believe someone is interpreting the 2nd amendment as compulsory Btw you are a militiaman ??

Right, and the UK knife bans have worked so well

And this relates to present discussion on American gun ownership how ??? But an Australian strengthening of gun control which did have positive results, does relate.

I never said it was a bad thing, I merely stated that the rest of the world needs to not be so egotistical and yuppy sounding as if they're so ethically and morally righteous than everyone else.

This is a gun issue "not a a world against America" issue

see how that works? plur mannnnn.

I didn't think it worked actually.

Exactly, the government needs to crack down on the illegal arms trading, not on the citizens of the US who legitimately and legally hold firearms. But I guess none of these self-righteous world lovers ever followed the DC gun ban overturn. If you don't like guns, fine, but don't come barking up our tree telling us we shouldn't have them and that we're logically inept for having them.

Once again you try to turn this into an anti American thing. One thing these forums have taught me is that there are many, many different opinions held by Americans on all issues. And thankfully there are many, many who disagree with you on this issue.

It has nothing to do with being America, we just don't like to see you killing yourselves. It's anti gun thing , not an anti American thing.

Once you strip away the rhetoric we get back to the fact that if you are any ordinary householder that owns a gun , you are far more likely to die from a gun, and there is a very good chance the gun will be yours.


The most apparent thing about the 2nd amendment is the controversy about the interpretation. Apparently a lot of American critics as well as foreign critics don't agree with a lot of the posters here.

[DIDI]

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Btw to the person who left the bad rep I am not judging anyone , I just happen to think too many innocent people die unnecessarily .

[MJDub]

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Once you strip away the rhetoric we get back to the fact that if you are any ordinary householder that owns a gun , you are far more likely to die from a gun, and there is a very good chance the gun will be yours.

Car owners are most likely to be killed by their own cars too. Let's get rid of them.

See, everything has its risks. Let's keep the ban-train in the station.

[i!!ustrious]

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check your inbox didi

[DIDI]

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MJDub,
Pretty disingenuous analogy that seems to get used a lot!

Killing people is a byproduct of car useage, usually brought about by misuse of the car. Whereas gun deaths are when the gun, particularly the hand gun, is doing exactly what it was designed to do! Kill people!!


I haven't actually asked for a ban, I would love it, I'm realistic to know that couldn't work, but to just keep quoting the 2nd amendment isn't working either. If you care, looking at sensible regulation is the way to go.

[DIDI]

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check your inbox didi

Answered!!

[Localizer]

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Once again you try to turn this into an anti American thing. One thing these forums have taught me is that there are many, many different opinions held by Americans on all issues. And thankfully there are many, many who disagree with you on this issue.

It's not an anti-American thing, it's a lack of historical perspective which the world doesn't want to acknowledge. Those people that call themselves Americans, who don't agree with most of the Constitution, are nothing more than Americans who have never read it.

Those same Americans are the ones that bitch when local governments put up speeding cameras, and then, and only then, do they want protection from the constitution in the form federal jurisdiction or the 6th amendment.

You know the demographics of the people that voted for prop 8 in California? A significant majority of the people that voted were democrats. And guess what, they know jack shit about the Constitution and its amendments otherwise they would not have voted for it in the first place.

So your presumption that most disagree will be in large part due their baselessness in American history. If you don't like guns, fine, but like I said, don't bark up my tree about it. And I made that pretty dam clear. And I urge you to talk to your local American the next time you're here to see how much they know about their own document that gives them the liberties that they have.

It has nothing to do with being America, we just don't like to see you killing yourselves. It's anti gun thing , not an anti American thing.

And it turns into an anti American thing because you don't understand the viewpoint from a conservative perspective. We have our weapons for a reason, we already established that--you guys just don't like that we do and so the typical liberal vs. conservative battle starts.

Once you strip away the rhetoric we get back to the fact that if you are any ordinary householder that owns a gun , you are far more likely to die from a gun, and there is a very good chance the gun will be yours.

When you get a razor, you're more likely to cut yourself. When you get a radio, you're more likely to shock yourself. When you get ant spray, you're more likely to ingest toxins. There's a risk to everything. Life isn't failproof.

The most apparent thing about the 2nd amendment is the controversy about the interpretation. Apparently a lot of American critics as well as foreign critics don't agree with a lot of the posters here.

Like who? You said you posted articles regarding the homicide stats but you didn't. And great, a lot of American critics don't agree with foreign critics or other American critics. It still doesn't detract from the vitality of such an amendment as a means from repression.

[Localizer]

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Originally Posted by Localizer
Really? How about you point out those statistics and the breakdown of those statistics per state.

Well I have posted some but you obviously chose not to read them. Really good Harvard study!!

Certainly not int his thread.

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oxymoron. right to bear arms, well regulated militia = compulsory to a, say it with me now, free state.
I can;t actually believe someone is interpreting the 2nd amendment as compulsory Btw you are a militiaman ??

yes, compulsory to a free state. and yes, I will in the near future be joining a militia.

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Right, and the UK knife bans have worked so well
And this relates to present discussion on American gun ownership how ??? But an Australian strengthening of gun control which did have positive results, does relate.

Guns and knives are both tools. A ban for one works in one country and a ban for one does not work in the other country. It's highly relevant to the thread. In fact, what I've been reading, crime really hasn't changed and it has only been substituted by other forms of weapons. And there lies the problems, you can get rid of guns, but then what's next to substitute it?

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I never said it was a bad thing, I merely stated that the rest of the world needs to not be so egotistical and yuppy sounding as if they're so ethically and morally righteous than everyone else.
This is a gun issue "not a a world against America" issue

It is a world against conservatives issue.

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see how that works? plur mannnnn.
I didn't think it worked actually.

Of course not, you're Australian. You guys know little of our precedents in the courts and our history. Wouldn't really expect you to figure out how the 1st amendment was derived either.

[Localizer]

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MJDub,
Pretty disingenuous analogy that seems to get used a lot!

Killing people is a byproduct of car useage, usually brought about by misuse of the car. Whereas gun deaths are when the gun, particularly the hand gun, is doing exactly what it was designed to do! Kill people!!

No, a gun, like a car, is a tool, and that is all. The person behind it are what do the damage. You can still kill a family with a carbon monoxide and moreso during winter months.

[DIDI]

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Thanks for reprinting my answers Btw I have posted links in this thread. Look Harder