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  • shosh
    Banned
    • Jun 2004
    • 4668

    Myths od the Middle East

    I've been quiet since Israel erupted in fighting spurred by disputes over the Temple Mount.
    Until now, I haven't even bothered to say, "See, I told you so." But I can't resist any longer. I feel compelled to remind you of the column I wrote just a couple weeks before the latest uprising. Yeah, folks, I predicted it. That's OK. Hold your applause.
    After all, I wish I had been wrong. More than 80 people have been killed since the current fighting in and around Jerusalem began. And for what?
    If you believe what you read in most news sources, Palestinians want a homeland and Muslims want control over sites they consider holy. Simple, right?
    Well, as an Arab-American journalist who has spent some time in the Middle East dodging more than my share of rocks and mortar shells, I've got to tell you that these are just phony excuses for the rioting, trouble-making and land-grabbing.
    Isn't it interesting that prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, there was no serious movement for a Palestinian homeland?
    "Well, Farah," you might say, "that was before the Israelis seized the West Bank and Old Jerusalem."
    That's true. In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they didn't capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan's King Hussein. I can't help but wonder why all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
    The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.
    Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.
    There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.
    But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
    What about Islam's holy sites? There are none in Jerusalem.
    Shocked? You should be. I don't expect you will ever hear this brutal truth from anyone else in the international media. It's just not politically correct.
    I know what you're going to say: "Farah, the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem represent Islam's third most holy sites."
    Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Mohammed ever visited Jerusalem.
    So how did Jerusalem become the third holiest site of Islam? Muslims today cite a vague passage in the Koran, the seventeenth Sura, entitled "The Night Journey." It relates that in a dream or a vision Mohammed was carried by night "from the sacred temple to the temple that is most remote, whose precinct we have blessed, that we might show him our signs. ..." In the seventh century, some Muslims identified the two temples mentioned in this verse as being in Mecca and Jerusalem. And that's as close as Islam's connection with Jerusalem gets -- myth, fantasy, wishful thinking. Meanwhile, Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham.
    The latest round of violence in Israel erupted when Likud Party leader Ariel Sharon tried to visit the Temple Mount, the foundation of the Temple built by Solomon. It is the holiest site for Jews. Sharon and his entourage were met with stones and threats. I know what it's like. I've been there. Can you imagine what it is like for Jews to be threatened, stoned and physically kept out of the holiest site in Judaism?
    So what's the solution to the Middle East mayhem? Well, frankly, I don't think there is a man-made solution to the violence. But, if there is one, it needs to begin with truth. Pretending will only lead to more chaos. Treating a 5,000-year-old birthright backed by overwhelming historical and archaeological evidence equally with illegitimate claims, wishes and wants gives diplomacy and peacekeeping a bad name.



  • Shiva
    MCast Mistress
    • Nov 2007
    • 2461

    #2
    Re: Myths od the Middle East

    Originally posted by shosh
    I know what you're going to say: "Farah, the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem represent Islam's third most holy sites."
    Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Mohammed ever visited Jerusalem.
    So how did Jerusalem become the third holiest site of Islam? Muslims today cite a vague passage in the Koran, the seventeenth Sura, entitled "The Night Journey." It relates that in a dream or a vision Mohammed was carried by night "from the sacred temple to the temple that is most remote, whose precinct we have blessed, that we might show him our signs. ..."

    Well Shosh, so many articles can contradict each other, it all comes to interpretation and the way it is being narrated and by whom it is being narrated, especially when it comes to history.

    Take the same topic of the first or second world war for example, from 2 history books, 1 French and the other German...and compare them, you would be surprised more than 1 time.

    That article you posted, well I donno about the author, but it is like saying:
    - Hey, the "Vatican" is not the holiest christian site of the Catholic church coz it is not mentioned in the Bible!
    Jesus was crucified under Roman rule, yet the Vatican has been built in Rome hundreds years later.

    Maybe the author thinks that 1+ billion muslims are just crazy or having a mass delusion?


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    • thesightless
      Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
      • Jun 2004
      • 13567

      #3
      Re: Myths od the Middle East

      this is why religion is false and evil. all of them. complete bullshit.
      your life is an occasion, rise to it.

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      • shosh
        Banned
        • Jun 2004
        • 4668

        #4
        Re: Myths od the Middle East

        Originally posted by Shiva
        Well Shosh, so many articles can contradict each other, it all comes to interpretation and the way it is being narrated and by whom it is being narrated, especially when it comes to history.

        Take the same topic of the first or second world war for example, from 2 history books, 1 French and the other German...and compare them, you would be surprised more than 1 time.

        That article you posted, well I donno about the author, but it is like saying:
        - Hey, the "Vatican" is not the holiest christian site of the Catholic church coz it is not mentioned in the Bible!
        Jesus was crucified under Roman rule, yet the Vatican has been built in Rome hundreds years later.

        Maybe the author thinks that 1+ billion muslims are just crazy or having a mass delusion?
        I understand your point. I only posted this article as I found it somewhat interesting.

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        • chloe harris
          Platinum Poster
          • Jun 2004
          • 1021

          #5
          Re: Myths od the Middle East

          Originally posted by thesightless
          this is why religion is false and evil. all of them. complete bullshit.
          +976979763679867 yes yes.
          pillow humping rules.

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          • thesightless
            Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
            • Jun 2004
            • 13567

            #6
            Re: Myths od the Middle East

            but you hate faith, i have faith in something. i just acknowledge the fatcs that religion in the organized, heirarchal sense has been been implemented to control people and often times, "adjusted" or "changed" to cater to public opinion and scientific advance.

            i.e. women as alter serrvers in catholic church
            the destruction of the jews in islam
            etc
            your life is an occasion, rise to it.

            Join My Chant. new mix. april 09. dirty fuck house.
            download that. deep shit listed there

            my dick is its own superhero.

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            • chloe harris
              Platinum Poster
              • Jun 2004
              • 1021

              #7
              Re: Myths od the Middle East

              no where did i say i hate faith?
              i think there is spirituality but i don't believe in some robed male with hair poufing the earth from the sky.

              religions and spirituality are two completely different things.
              pillow humping rules.

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              • davetlv
                Platinum Poster
                • Jun 2004
                • 1205

                #8
                Re: Myths od the Middle East

                I'm obviously missing something, and article for 2000 is relevant regarding the homicidal manics in Gaza, how exactly?

                Had this been the west bank, possibily, i might see the connection. . . . but seriously????

                If your point is boo hoo religion is bad - well bollocks, it ain't, what's bad is the bastardisation of religion in the name of carrying out homicidal tendencies.

                Maybe I just missed the point of such an old article!

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                • shosh
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 4668

                  #9
                  Re: Myths od the Middle East

                  Originally posted by davetlv
                  I'm obviously missing something, and article for 2000 is relevant regarding the homicidal manics in Gaza, how exactly?

                  Had this been the west bank, possibily, i might see the connection. . . . but seriously????

                  If your point is boo hoo religion is bad - well bollocks, it ain't, what's bad is the bastardisation of religion in the name of carrying out homicidal tendencies.

                  Maybe I just missed the point of such an old article!
                  go back and read it again then

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                  • Shiva
                    MCast Mistress
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 2461

                    #10
                    Re: Myths od the Middle East

                    Atheism has increased greatly in Europe during the last few decades... Well, usually an atheist takes one of the 2 directions of thoughts, which are common:
                    He goes towards a scientific view of things, or he goes on the opposite side, which the anarchist mentality.

                    Funny when it takes a scientific turn and view of things (1+1=2), coz all great scientists end up tuning towards philosophy at the end, for mainly 1 reason:
                    After all their 786725453864976489124769449847389498498 of calculations, formulas, theories and "latest" discoveries....at the end of ALL that mathematical and scientific universe and at the last end of his own scientific tunnel he gets to one simple conclusion that he sees through science but can't explain in numbers: there is a HIGHER POWER!

                    (Square root of 2?)

                    Damn, now I am going philosophic


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