Closing Down GITMO

[DIDI]

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Or perhaps they are but the evidence is not there because of the haphazard way in which the previous administration captured these people around the world and processed their cases. And now it is years later and too late to get all of the evidence they should have gotten then.

But I agree that they will probably have to let many of them go free. So now we might well let go the guys who will drop the next skyscrapers in some city in my country and kill another couple thousand people - or maybe worse. And the concern is real...

By processed their cases do you mean the torture ?? Thank god that is being stopped. That has done so much harm to America .

[Miroslav]

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By processed their cases do you mean the torture ?? Thank god that is being stopped. That has done so much harm to America .

no, I'm not talking at all about torture - although I agree that the US should not torture. I'm talking about the systematic gathering and documenting of evidence that builds a case to prove beyond a reasonable doubt these captured individuals' guilt in terrorist activities.

That is the processing that should have been done years ago and wasn't. And as a result, people who probably are terrorists and pose a real danger to the US will be let go so that they can resume their activities.

[chunky]

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Seems to me if there was any evidence the US would of prosecuted them.

[simonr]

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Pity Jack Bauer is fictional .. he'd have had the truth out of them in no time.

G-bay has always been a symbol of the fight on terrror - but a poor one that just became a symbol of violating human rights.

That said, you still shouldn't have the right to be a terrorist and kill innocent people indescriminantly (even though they say that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter). So there still need to be steps in place to take the terrroists out of the population.

[chunky]

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The problem is most of these people where rounded up as a result of people making accusations in order to receive financial rewards from the American Government. Which obviously creates a problem straight away. You just have to look at the case with Dilawar that was featured in Taxi To The Dark Side.

I'm more scared of Geese than I am of Terrorists

[Garrick]

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Pity Jack Bauer is fictional .. he'd have had the truth out of them in no time.

was thinking the same thing.

[Garrick]

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The problem is most of these people where rounded up as a result of people making accusations in order to receive financial rewards from the American Government. Which obviously creates a problem straight away. You just have to look at the case with Dilawar that was featured in Taxi To The Dark Side.

I'm more scared of Geese than I am of Terrorists

people made accusations but the accusations had to carry some merit for the american government to reward them... i don't think that is really the problem.

[chunky]

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people made accusations but the accusations had to carry some merit for the american government to reward them... i don't think that is really the problem.

The accusations carried no merit in Dilawar's case. He ended up losing his life after weeks of torture. Turned out it was his accuser who was actually guilty of what Dilawar had been accused of.

[Garrick]

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touche. that is a good point. but how many cases like that are there? i hope not many!

[chunky]

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I think a lot more than you think.

[Garrick]

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you may be right. it is sad that trust is such a lost virtue in today's world.

[runningman]

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They are closing down Gitmo because they have FEMA camps set up all over the country. There are 100 Gitmo's setup all over the USA waiting to be filled

we spoke about this years ago

http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40997&highlight=Fema+camps

[Miroslav]

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^^ the plan never was to just let those guys walk out free when they close down Quantanamo. The main difference is that they should now end up being processed and tried as regular criminal suspects, whether in civilian or military court.

[Localizer]

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I'm not following... Why would US forces capture people who are supposedly anti-American terrorists in order to train them? For what? To kill us all better?

Well, you could train them to be inside agents or you could actually train them in better, more crude types of warfare. You could also essentially give them internal information. Basically you could set up a network that is homemade. But it's all conspiracy theorist sounding.

[Miroslav]

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Well, you could train them to be inside agents or you could actually train them in better, more crude types of warfare. You could also essentially give them internal information. Basically you could set up a network that is homemade. But it's all conspiracy theorist sounding.

I dunno, dude...I just don't see the logic in why they would do that. Seems to me that if you capture a bunch of people who supposedly hate you and have been trying to kill you, the last thing you want to do is give them a bunch of sensitive information and train them to be better killers.